if you don't believe me, then please consider mailing craig directly on this matter. i'm busting a gut to prevent the impending dependency hell that will result if struts ships without the new commons releases. i've even started cutting releases again (at risk to my liberty and livelihood).

craig helped to get this process started and knows just how bad this will be without the solutions we've been working on. please don't just ignore this information because it's me telling you rather than him.

- robert

On 6 Jun 2004, at 13:49, Ted Husted wrote:

I believe it would be better to roll Struts 1.2.1 *before* the new releases of the other Commons dependencies arrive.

I'd like to try rolling the Commons Validator 1.1.3 tomorrow, and then roll Struts 1.2.1 the next day.

If Commons Validator 1.1.3 then goes "stable", Struts 1.2.1 would be in a position to follow suit.

As the dominoes fall :), we can bring the Struts-Chain up from contrib, reorganize the repository to better support Maven and subprojects, release 1.3.0, along with the new Struts Scripting and Struts BSF subprojects, Don has waiting in the wings :)

-Ted.

On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 08:37:34 +0100, robert burrell donkin wrote:

On 4 Jun 2004, at 23:44, Joe Germuska wrote:

Struts 1.2.1 is blocked on the full release of its commons-
validator dependency (1.1.3).  Of the open bugs, by my
assessment, only a one looks like a showstopper that should be
resolved before a release:

http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=29004

I reclassified some others that I definitely didn't think
classified as blockers; If you're interested in helping, you
could look at the rest and see if you can fix them (it's fine to
fix non-blocker bugs, of course) or help confirm them or
otherwise clarify the issues.

I think commons-validator is just blocking on someone having time
to be the release manager.


IMHO it's not just commons-validator that's the issue any more.


1. craig is very busy right now preparing for the release of
project rave at javaone> 2. over the next few weeks there will be releases for most of the
major struts and validator commons dependencies (logging, beanutils
and digester). the beanutils and digester releases are important
not only for the bugs they fix but also because they allow the
removal of the commons collections dependency. this dependency is
an issue now that there the 3.x series of collections releases are
incompatible with the 2.x series. the logging release is important
since it'll work with the new 1.3 series of log4j releases.


with a bit of luck, everything might come together.


if anyone does have some free coding time and would like to push the struts release along, beanutils is the most difficult release and some extra help would be appreciated there.

- robert



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