--- Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:34:13 -0800 (PST), David Graham
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > I agree with Don's assessment, but wanted to add an FYI note --
> Shale
> > > does zero-config for #3 (because the mapping between a JSP page and
> > > the corresponding ViewController is implicit), and doesn't require
> #1
> > > unless you need it for doing Commons Validator stuff.
> > >
> > > Simpler is definitely better.
> >
> > But is adding yet another framework to Struts simplifying anything for
> the
> > user or just for us developers? If we add Spring, we would need to
> know
> > the following to write a Struts webapp:
> > 1. struts-config.xml
> > 2. validator-rules.xml
> > 3. spring.xml (or whatever they call the config file)
> > 4. possibly tiles-config.xml
> > 5. possibly jsf config files
> >
> > How is learning and remembering up to 5 different configuration files
> > better for the user? If I was put in this position, I would seriously
> > consider other ways of writing Java webapps.
> >
> > David
>
> The current Shale version of struts-mailreader requires *one*
> configuration file (WEB-INF/faces-config.xml), and adding client side
> validation and/or Tiles *might* add one for each (although that is not
> a given). For example, Spring config files are only needed if you
> want to use Spring in addition to JSF -- if you are satisfied with the
> "setter injection" support that JSF already provides, you don't need
> Spring for basic IoC functionality.
>
> Tell me again why it is ok for Stuts 1.x to require more configuration
> files than Shale does :-)
My basic concern is that we're heading down a path that doesn't simplify
things for Struts users (including myself in that group) and instead using
the next shiny technology in front of us. If Spring and/or JSF simplify
using Struts, then I wholeheartedly support using them. But first we need
to show how they accomplish that and not just use them because they're
"cool".
Writing Java webapps should be easy.
David
>
> Craig
>
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