Ted Husted wrote:
On 12/9/05, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I long ago stopped trying to convince anyone that they should do things my way,


I don't think a lot of people could :)

After all, how many developers can


look at the code for a little while and then say "ok, change X to Y and try it."


I think the point of IDEs is to turn us all into Frank Zammetti's,
except that we need the IDE to do the staring for us :)

Or, perhaps more precisely, to do the guessing for you :) It's just that after a long enough time, ones' guesses tend to be right more often than not :)

In light of this whole conversation, I'm not so sure I like being compared to an IDE :) LOL

You know, I will tell one such story because I think it's one of the better ones...

My senior year in high school, my school actually had COBOL and Pascal classes! A friend of mine was taking Pascal at the time. Now, at that point, I had never in my life seen Pascal. Once day he hands me a 2 page printout of a program he's working on and tells me something isn't working (I don't recall what the problem was, but the point here is that it wound up being part syntactical and part logic flow)... anyway, I stared at it for a few minutes and finally suggested a few changes to make. Long story short, he tried it next period and it worked!

I learned that day that the basic concepts underlying programming don't change very much from language to language, the rest of it is just relatively minor syntax differences (for the most part).

This thread started with a comment that we should leave the debug
logging in MailReader to appeal to the "lowest common denominator".
But, I think this thread shows that extensive logging appeals to the
other end of the spectrum :)

:)

-Ted.

Frank

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