Yes, it would be helpful to find a good way to make JSF easier to use in a conventional Action-based application, much the same way we are trying to make Ajax easier to use in SAF2.
Our first attempt (as a project) at JSF/Action integration was the Struts JSF taglib. The promise here was to migrate a Struts JSP to JSF, one page a time. It sounded good, but unfortunately, it didn't' work out as well in practice. Our second attempt is Shale. Since we couldn't find a way to integrate JSF into an Action-based framework, we erased the whiteboard and started over. While this approach seems to be working well for people ready for a clean break, it is not creating a migration path for Action-centric developers. Our third attempt at integration is the recent work that tacks JSF components onto SAF2. If this third attempt pans out in practice, and works with extensions like Clay, then, sure, we might be able to position Shale as the JSF extension to SAF2. Much like we're talking about creating an Ajax extension based on DWR or Dojo. As for making the UI tags an independant extension, a al Tiles, that sounds good too. (Even better if we include the "value added" Ajax support.) But I don't know if we want to hold back the SAF 2.0.0 to make it happen. But, for phase 2, sure! -Ted. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]