Joe,
My advice would be to spend some time writing demo apps and deploying
them on some servers, that way people can see the library in action.
S2 has a wide user base and so (imho) we can't afford to take risks by
dedicating time to converting the core templates to work on an unproven
library when we have a fully tested alternative.
Al.
Joe Hudson wrote:
Thank you for taking the time to evaluate zipscript.
This is not currently being used in any real world apps because it is
new. That is certainly a valid concern. It is kind of a catch 22
because how can you ever be used in a real world app if people only
want an engine that is being used in a real world app?
Anyway, I'd like to address my assumption of your main concerns
regarding real world app usage:
1) Is it reliable?
All of the functionality is unit tested before a release is performed
and there are many unit tests which can be seen here:
- Unit Tests:
http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/#svn/trunk/core/src/main/test/test/hudson/zipscript
- Referenced Templates and Results:
http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/#svn/trunk/core/src/main/test/templates
2) How does it perform?
There is a unit test that merges a template consisting of multiple
macro references (called PerformanceTest)
http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/source/browse/trunk/core/src/main/test/test/hudson/zipscript/PerformanceTestCase.java
This test, when performed on my laptop, can perform 1000 merges in
about 1 second.
As to the other issues of porting to other languages. That isn't
currently in the plan now but certainly would be something on the
plate if this language got a foothold.
Joe
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 6:20 AM, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
For me, it's the "real world apps", *plus* the interest in porting GXP
to other platforms, like C++, and Ruby. Personally, I'd like to add C#
to that list. ASPX, like JSF, has its charms, but many .NET developers
(including me) would like alternatives.
I do find the zipscript YUI examples interesting, since we are also
looking for an alternative approach to supporting Ajax with the Struts
tags.
-Ted.
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 1:30 AM, Al Sutton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Joe,
My main reason for backing GXP is that it's been used in high volume "real
world" apps by Google and so has been proven to scale.
Does ZipScript have the same real world testing, and if so where is it used?
Al.
Joe Hudson wrote:
Hello,
With all the talk about GXP, I wanted to let you know about another
template engine called ZipScript (zipscript.org).
Ok, you're probably saying... another one??? but this has some
distinct advantages and I would love for you to give it a try - I
really think you'll be happy you did.
1) it can be used to create complex UI components
2) it has a powerful non XML-based syntax (which is helpful since the
most common output is XML)
3) it can also be used to get more than just text from expressions
(like booleans or objects) - great for having smarter config
properties
Here are some quick links:
- homepage:
http://zipscript.googlecode.com
- Yahoo! UI macro examples:
http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/wiki/YUIMacros
- Language Syntax Examples
http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/wiki/SyntaxExamples
Thanks
Joe Hudson
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