On 13 Oct 2013, at 14:05, Dave Newton wrote:
Meh. What does it matter?
You mean, why should we support Hackathons around Struts?
Or why should we protect our trademarks?
The first question is obvious. So more so better.
The second question: I followed the problems of Hadoop, CouchDB and so
on.
If we generally allow the use of the term Strutsathon we can not ask for
respecting
our trademarks if a commercial entity abuses it (in our eyes).
I believe it should be in the hands of the PMC to keep control of
Strutsathons and protecting
the trademark of it is in my opinion a first step.
Cheers
Christian
On Oct 12, 2013 5:44 PM, "Christian Grobmeier" <grobme...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 12 Oct 2013, at 21:31, Dave Newton wrote:
Adding "-athon" is common, I'm not sure I understand why we're
discussing
it.
Please read my initial email. Besides adding it as a trademark, I
suggest
to create some pages to support community driven Strutsathons
On Oct 12, 2013 10:50 AM, "Frans Thamura" <fr...@meruvian.org> wrote:
Lukaz, your way will.inspiring.people to start the same way
And good for all of us.
F
On Oct 12, 2013 9:48 PM, "Christian Grobmeier"
<grobme...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 12 Oct 2013, at 16:20, Lukasz Lenart wrote:
I must say "I'm sorry Christian!". I supposed ask you first before
I
have used the name Strutshaton. I'm really sorry, I thought about
that
but forget :(
Don't worry!
I think it was great you have chosen the term and you should keep
it.
I see a good opportunity to improve our community work when we
manage
to establish the term Strutsathon.
I have to say "Thank you" for the good idea to organize another
Strutsathon
in Warsaw.
Thanks & kind regards
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2013/10/12 Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com>:
Hello folks,
as you know I previously invented the term "Strutsathon" for the
first
Strutsathon in Augsburg:
http://strutsathon.opensource.****io/ <http://strutsathon.**
opensource.io/ <http://strutsathon.opensource.io/>
Now I saw Lukasz is using the term for one in Warsaw. I sense a
pattern
and
hope there will be more Strutsathons to follow!
As I invented the term "Strutsathon" I believe I have some
ownership
in
it,
despite the fact I use the ASF trademark "Struts".
If I have any rights on it, I donate it to the project.
Then I believe we should add this term to our trademark
information on
the
bottom of every page:
"Copyright © 2000-2013 The Apache Software Foundation. All
Rights
Reserved.
Apache Struts, Struts, Strutsathon, Apache, the Apache feather
logo,
and
the
Apache Struts project logos are trademarks of The Apache
Software
Foundation."
PMC members who organize Strutsathons (or third parties whom we
allowed
to
do so) should write something like this to the bottom of their
page:
"Apache Struts, Struts, Strutsathon and Apache are either
registered
trademarks or trademarks of the Apache Software Foundation in
the
United
States and/or other countries, and are used with permission. The
Apache
Software Foundation has no affiliation with and does not
endorse, or
review
the materials provided at this event, which is managed by
opensource.io
."
(fyi: opensource.io is the brand i used to organize the
strutsathon)
If you agree, I would like to add our new trademark here:
*
www.apache.org/foundation/****marks/list/index.html<http://www.apache.org/foundation/**marks/list/index.html>
<
http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/list/index.**html<http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/list/index.html>
And notify the trademarks team on this. I don't think there are
comparable
trademarks out, we are a trend setter :-)
Finally I would like to push this kind of events and suggest we
create
an
official website for Struts related
events where we list for example the past event and also new
events
like
the
Warsaw one.
Thoughts?
Cheers
Christian
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