I think I understand what Dave meant ... but anyway, I'm up to what Christian proposed, thus will give clear signal and allows others (Strutsathon organisers) use the trademark without embarrassment ;-)
Kind regards -- Łukasz + 48 606 323 122 http://www.lenart.org.pl/ 2013/10/13 Christian Grobmeier <[email protected]>: > On 13 Oct 2013, at 14:05, Dave Newton wrote: > >> Meh. What does it matter? > > > You mean, why should we support Hackathons around Struts? > Or why should we protect our trademarks? > > The first question is obvious. So more so better. > > The second question: I followed the problems of Hadoop, CouchDB and so on. > If we generally allow the use of the term Strutsathon we can not ask for > respecting > our trademarks if a commercial entity abuses it (in our eyes). > > I believe it should be in the hands of the PMC to keep control of > Strutsathons and protecting > the trademark of it is in my opinion a first step. > > Cheers > Christian > > >> On Oct 12, 2013 5:44 PM, "Christian Grobmeier" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> On 12 Oct 2013, at 21:31, Dave Newton wrote: >>> >>> Adding "-athon" is common, I'm not sure I understand why we're discussing >>>> >>>> it. >>>> >>> >>> Please read my initial email. Besides adding it as a trademark, I suggest >>> to create some pages to support community driven Strutsathons >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 12, 2013 10:50 AM, "Frans Thamura" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Lukaz, your way will.inspiring.people to start the same way >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> And good for all of us. >>>>> >>>>> F >>>>> On Oct 12, 2013 9:48 PM, "Christian Grobmeier" <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 12 Oct 2013, at 16:20, Lukasz Lenart wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I must say "I'm sorry Christian!". I supposed ask you first before I >>>>>> >>>>>>> have used the name Strutshaton. I'm really sorry, I thought about >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> but forget :( >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Don't worry! >>>>>> >>>>>> I think it was great you have chosen the term and you should keep it. >>>>>> I see a good opportunity to improve our community work when we manage >>>>>> to establish the term Strutsathon. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have to say "Thank you" for the good idea to organize another >>>>>> >>>>> Strutsathon >>>>> >>>>>> in Warsaw. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks & kind regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Łukasz >>>>>>> + 48 606 323 122 http://www.lenart.org.pl/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2013/10/12 Christian Grobmeier <[email protected]>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello folks, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> as you know I previously invented the term "Strutsathon" for the >>>>>>>> first >>>>>>>> Strutsathon in Augsburg: >>>>>>>> http://strutsathon.opensource.****io/ <http://strutsathon.** >>>>>>>> opensource.io/ <http://strutsathon.opensource.io/> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now I saw Lukasz is using the term for one in Warsaw. I sense a >>>>>>>> pattern >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> hope there will be more Strutsathons to follow! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As I invented the term "Strutsathon" I believe I have some ownership >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> it, >>>>>>>> despite the fact I use the ASF trademark "Struts". >>>>>>>> If I have any rights on it, I donate it to the project. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Then I believe we should add this term to our trademark information >>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> bottom of every page: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Copyright © 2000-2013 The Apache Software Foundation. All Rights >>>>>>>> Reserved. >>>>>>>> Apache Struts, Struts, Strutsathon, Apache, the Apache feather logo, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> and >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> the >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Apache Struts project logos are trademarks of The Apache Software >>>>>>>> Foundation." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> PMC members who organize Strutsathons (or third parties whom we >>>>>>>> allowed >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> do so) should write something like this to the bottom of their page: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Apache Struts, Struts, Strutsathon and Apache are either registered >>>>>>>> trademarks or trademarks of the Apache Software Foundation in the >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> United >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> States and/or other countries, and are used with permission. The >>>>>> Apache >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Software Foundation has no affiliation with and does not endorse, or >>>>>>>> review >>>>>>>> the materials provided at this event, which is managed by >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> opensource.io >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> ." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (fyi: opensource.io is the brand i used to organize the strutsathon) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you agree, I would like to add our new trademark here: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>> www.apache.org/foundation/****marks/list/index.html<http://www.apache.org/foundation/**marks/list/index.html> >>>>>>>> < >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/list/index.**html<http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/list/index.html> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> And notify the trademarks team on this. I don't think there are >>>>>>>> comparable >>>>>>>> trademarks out, we are a trend setter :-) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Finally I would like to push this kind of events and suggest we >>>>>>>> create >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> an >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> official website for Struts related >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> events where we list for example the past event and also new events >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> like >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> the >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Warsaw one. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thoughts? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>> Christian >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de >>>>>>>> @grobmeier >>>>>>>> GPG: 0xA5CC90DB >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------****----------------------------**--** >>>>>>>> --------- >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected].****org< >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [email protected].**org<[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------****----------------------------** >>>>> >>>>> --**--------- >>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected].****org< >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> [email protected].**org >>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de >>>>>> @grobmeier >>>>>> GPG: 0xA5CC90DB >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> --- >>> http://www.grobmeier.de >>> @grobmeier >>> GPG: 0xA5CC90DB > > > > --- > http://www.grobmeier.de > @grobmeier > GPG: 0xA5CC90DB --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
