On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Johan Corveleyn <jcor...@gmail.com> wrote: ... > Motivation: > > * Make it possible to set up pages that anyone can edit, after > creating an account without interaction with some administrator / > moderator (in moinmoin, a new account needs to be activated by someone > with admin privileges -- too much friction). > - example that triggered this: let's keep a list of distributors / > packagers, and a list of tool vendors / integrators -- would be nice > if people could add themselves to such a page. Apart from that we want > more people to contribute to all kinds of docs / design / discussion.
After chatting on #asfinfra (hipchat) with the experts, it seems the above is not an option. The "self-signup" is not well protected (no captcha), so creating pages with liberal permissions (anyone with an account can edit) is a recipe for spam. Maybe we can come up with a simple, pleasant workflow for new people to get added to an editor-group on demand, but that's about it. > * Faster editing / saving (moinmoin still has performance problems). > > * In general: making it easier and nicer for anyone to contribute, > lowering barriers, ... > > * Additional benefit: user accounts are shared between the ASF JIRA > and Confluence instances. And shared accounts are not a reality at this time either. Though infra are going to make this happen sometime next year (by installing "crowd", specific authentication service of Atlassian, enabling SSO accross their services coupled with it). Although the more liberal editing is not an option, I still think we should go forward with migrating to Confluence. For the other reasons (more attractive to all kinds of contributors (also non-coders), lower barriers, faster editing/saving, ...). Plus: in the longer term, infra wants to end-of-life their moinmoin service, if I understood correctly. gmcdonald will be sending me the Universal Wiki Converter tools and actual moinmoin pages of Subversion, so I can experiment a bit with it. -- Johan
