Hi,
I like to add some comments, as it seems, it not clear, what the
intention of Helga's mail was.
Helga Fischer schrieb:
Hi all,
we, the Germanophone Project, discussed in
http://de.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=61679 and gathered
arguments for the solution we have now.
with "arguments for the solution we have now" is meant, the current
menue structure ( menu item for the page format) should be left as it is
now. Although it might be correct, that a usability study has shown,
that new users (I'd guess Microsoft Word users, wihtout any motivation,
to use OOo) are looking for "page settings" in the file menue, we think,
the issue would bring no solution 8it would introduce inconsistencies
instead).
With "we", I am speaking of users at the germanophone qa, dev and users
list. The request, to drop the implementation of issue 61679 is
supported by various users. We have long term OOo users, new users (just
switched from MSO or other software) and a a number of trainers /
teachers, who are able to see how unexperienced users are starting to
work with OOo. We even have trainers who work as MS-Office trainers
(able to have a look at computer newbies, starting to work with MS-Office).
So .. although we did not do a focused usability study, the summary,
that Helga gave is based on a lot of experience.
To sum it up again:
only a very small number agreed, that it was good to add acces page
format to the file menue. Most of those who supportde this idea, were
thinking of "printer settings" (when looking for printer settings, it is
obvious to go to the file menue).
most spoke against adding page format to the file menue. Main reasons were:
- it will bring in inconsitencies, as the issue is filed for writer only
- the OOo way of formatting Characters - Paragraphs - Pages is obvious
and could be easily remembered, once you got it
- having page settings in the file menue will lead MSO users the rong
way, as the concepts in Writer and Word for page styles vs. page
settings are quite different (most agreed, tha finding "Format - page"
is not a real problem. The problems start, if you want to have different
headings for the second page ...)
- once more we will imitate other software's behaviour without real
need, loosing our own identity
After all, we need to come up with this arguments, as it is the only way
to suggest, that issue 61679 should *not* be implemented (as discussed
in the Community Council:
http://tmp.janik.cz/OpenOffice.org/CC-2006-03-30.txt).
André
PS.: during the discussion many of the participants even requested to
remove an inconsitency that has been introduced in the german UI of 2.0.
We have Format - Seite in all the module, but Format -
Seiteneinstellungen in Writer.
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