Paul,

In order to have the right behavior we need an ExecutorService (or
another thread pool implementation) with an execute method that blocks
until a worker thread becomes available. I don't see how to achieve
this with java.util.concurrent. Maybe somebody more familiar with this
can give a hint?

Note that even if we can change the worker pool behavior in this way,
we still need to change the acknowledgement behavior: otherwise there
is still the risk of loosing the message that is waiting for a thread
to become available.

Andreas

On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 12:41, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Andreas
>
> I agree this is a serious problem and needs fixing.
>
> I can see three solutions:
>
> 1) Change the acknowledge behaviour
> 2) Add proper JMS transactions to the mix
> 3) Change the worker pool behaviour
>
> Of these I would prefer that we did (3) first and allowed (2) as an option.
>
> Can you elaborate on what the difficulties you saw in this were?
>
> Thx
> Paul
>
> On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Andreas Veithen
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I had a look into this problem some time ago, but it didn't appear to
>> me as a simple fix.
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 03:20, Sanjiva Weerawarana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Andreas, isn't the fix a simple change to the transport?
>>>
>>> Andreas Veithen wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Danushka,
>>>>
>>>> Some time ago I opened SYNAPSE-435 which concludes that the JMS
>>>> transport in Synapse (now WS-Commons) is basically unreliable (as was
>>>> the JMS transport in Axis2 1.4). This is in contradiction with your
>>>> article. So either you used a different version of the transport, or
>>>> your article suggests a level of reliability that Synapse can't
>>>> provide, or my analysis in SYNAPSE-435 is incorrect. I would prefer
>>>> the latter (since this would imply that there is no issue at all), but
>>>> I fear that Synapse is not as reliable as the new sample would
>>>> suggest. Therefore, before including it, I think this needs to be
>>>> sorted out. Can you have a look at SYNAPSE-435 and give your opinion?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Andreas
>>>>
>>>> PS: Just to avoid misunderstanding: I'm not criticizing your article
>>>> in any way. I think it is very well written and presents a highly
>>>> interesting use case. I just fear that Synapse can't keep the promises
>>>> made.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 08:32, Danushka Menikkumbura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Devs,
>>>>>  It is possible to add message persistence to Synapse as explained in
>>>>> [1].
>>>>> I think it is worth shipping this as an example.
>>>>>
>>>>> Danushka
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]
>>>>> http://wso2.org/library/articles/adding-persistence-synapse-queuing-model
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