I think that a 2 month cycle would be a good compromise for major/minor 
releases. Fixpack release could be at a 1 month cycle.


Regards,
Berthold Reinwald
IBM Almaden Research Center
office: (408) 927 2208; T/L: 457 2208
e-mail: reinw...@us.ibm.com



From:   Deron Eriksson <deroneriks...@gmail.com>
To:     dev@systemml.incubator.apache.org
Date:   01/05/2017 02:14 PM
Subject:        Re: Release cadence



+1 for trying out a 1 month release cycle.

However, I highly agree with Matthias that there is a lot of overhead with
releases, so it would be good if we can work to streamline/automate the
process as much as possible. Also, it would be good to distribute the 
tasks
around as much as possible. This can result in cross-training and help
avoid overburdening the same contributors each month.

If the overhead slows us down too much, then we can go to a slower release
cycle.

Deron




On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 1:50 PM, <dusenberr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> +1 for adopting a 1 month release cycle.
>
> --
>
> Mike Dusenberry
> GitHub: github.com/dusenberrymw
> LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/mikedusenberry
>
> Sent from my iPhone.
>
>
> > On Jan 5, 2017, at 1:35 PM, Luciano Resende <luckbr1...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 6:05 AM, Matthias Boehm 
<mboe...@googlemail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> In general, I like the idea of aiming for consistent release cycles.
> >> However, every month is just too much, at least for me. There is a
> >> considerable overhead associated with each release for end-to-end
> >> performance tests, tests on different environments, code freeze for 
new
> >> features, etc. Hence, a too short release cycle would not be "agile" 
but
> >> would actually slow us down. From my perspective, a realistic release
> >> cadence would be 2-3 months, maybe a bit more for major releases.
> >>
> >>
> > 2-3 months of release cadence for an open source is probably a long
> > stretch, particular for a project that does not have very large set of
> 3rd
> > party dependencies.
> >
> > As for some of the overhead issues you mentioned, they are probably 
easy
> to
> > workaround:
> >
> > - code-freeze timeframe can be resolved with branches
> > - end-to-end performance regressions can be avoided by better code
> review,
> > and if you were willing to go with 2-3 months without performing these
> > tests, we could perform them only for major releases, and proactively
> > quickly build a minor release with the patch when a user report any
> > performance regression.
> >
> >
> > Anyway, I would really like to see SystemML more agile with regards to
> its
> > release process because, as I mentioned before, the release early,
> release
> > often mantra is good to increase community interest, generate more
> traffic
> > to the list as developers discuss the roadmap and release blockers, 
and
> > also enable users to provide feedback sooner on the areas we are
> developing.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Luciano Resende
> > http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> > http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>



-- 
Deron Eriksson
Spark Technology Center
http://www.spark.tc/




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