agreed - that's what i'm saying too - esp, for what is now the
tapestry-site project.

Can't we start migrating that independantly and see what the results look like?
Why does tapestry-site need to become tapestry-project in order to migrate it?

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 20:04, Howard Lewis Ship <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'd like to get away from using Maven to generate documentation and
> switch to something the gives prettier and better organized results.
>
> Sebastian H. has been doing a lot of work on mockups for a better
> organization of Tapestry.
>
> Basically, the fact that the landing page doesn't give you quick and
> obvious links to documentation, tutorials & a basic description of
> what Tapestry does and why its so valuable is hurting adoption. Most
> people won't open the first door, it must be open for them.
>
> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Andreas Andreou <[email protected]> wrote:
>> ok - my idea was that we'd be going for something like this:
>>
>> - every version deploys to its own folder, i.e. /tapestry5.1
>> /tapestry5.0, e.t.c.
>> upon release + there's no separate 5.0.11 vs 5.0.12 folders
>> - snapshots deploy every now and then (from CI machines) to similar
>> folders, i.e. /tapestry5.2-dev
>> - the landing page along with news, e.t.c. is kept separate (and in fact 
>> doesn't
>> even need to be created from maven + it'd be cool if it could have
>> some "social" features)... it doesn't have to mention older versions
>> right up front & it can link to content from the latest stable release
>>
>> That's why i thought current structure (with tapestry-site separate)
>> is better...
>>
>> Now, the proposed reorganization doesn't sound like it's improving on 
>> anything -
>> perhaps the only thing that gets easier is linking pages since they're
>> all in the same
>> project but that hasn't been a problem before...
>>
>> That being said, i will not object to the change - i just don't get it - yet 
>> !
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 18:55, Howard Lewis Ship <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Andreas Andreou <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> i dont really get it... what is the practical difference with what exists 
>>>> now?
>>>>
>>>> Also, wouldn't this cause problems when the current trunk becomes
>>>> an "older release"?
>>>
>>> It's a bit of an issue, you need to move the necessary files and
>>> directories to a new sub-folder.  Further, if you do a follow-up
>>> release, such as 5.1.0.6, you need to update the deployed site
>>> directory as well.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 18:27, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:23:19 -0300, Howard Lewis Ship <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This has gone around before but I expect to take this up pretty soon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Basically, we'll be getting rid of tapestry-site.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's content will be merged into tapestry-project, and
>>>>>> tapestry-project's documentation will take over the landing page,
>>>>>> http://tapestry.apache.org.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Older releases will be under that: i.e.,
>>>>>> http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry4 or
>>>>>> http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5.1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The site content be updated out-of-release cycle, to put up important
>>>>>> documentation or news.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any objections?
>>>>>
>>>>> Go ahead!
>>>>>
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