Thx for your reply.

On Jul 17, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hls...@gmail.com> wrote:

> So, do you want a report that reflects the reality of the project, or one 
> that parrots the Apache.org talking points?
> 
> Interestingly, the boilerplate for the monthly report was written by Ulrich 
> Stark ... i.e., this isn't a case of self-promotion.
> 
> We've had many discussions about why the development of Tapestry is the way 
> it is; it was always an explicit goal that developers of varying levels of 
> interest and even skill could contribute meaningfully to Tapestry (that's 
> reflected in the design of the IoC container, on the component model, with 
> the focus on not needing to understand every detail of Tapestry to make 
> significant extensions to it). That this has not happened significantly over 
> the lifespan of the project is frustrating.
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com> wrote:
> 
> On Jul 15, 2014, at 11:44 AM, Howard Lewis Ship <hls...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > PMC and committer diversity
> >
> >   PMC and committer diversity is good. To our knowledge no two committers 
> > share
> >   the same employer. Levels of contribution vary over time with Howard Lewis
> >   Ship being the driving force behind Tapestry's development and various 
> > other
> >   committers working on areas of their interest.
> >
> 
> That last sentence, starting with "Levels of contribution..."
> is not appropriate for a board report, with the explicit
> characterization of HLS being a "driving force." This
> sentence will be struck from the report and from the minutes.
> 
> It is also useful to recall that the goal of ASF projects is
> to create a collaborative, shared effort, and attempts to
> create "levels" among even peers, which is what committers
> are, are to be discouraged.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Howard M. Lewis Ship
> 
> Creator of Apache Tapestry
> 
> The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to learn 
> how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast!
> 
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