As discussed, I'm not suggesting to move the project outside of the
tapestry build / release. I'm also not tied to the hivemind name.

I constantly find myself saying tapestry (the web framework) and
tapestry-ioc on the user's list. A rename would help remove this ambiguity.
On 21 Jul 2014 11:42, "Bob Harner" <bobhar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't think it's a good idea to resurrect old software product names,
> because you bring with them all the old connotations. To the extent people
> know about Hivemind, they think of the product as old, out of date & dead.
>
> Also, there were good reasons why Tapestry-IOC was not treated as a
> distinct project. As our docs say: "The difficulty of managing the release
> schedules of two complex frameworks proved to be an issue."
> On Jul 21, 2014 3:22 AM, "Jochen Kemnade" <jochen.kemn...@eddyson.de>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Am 19.07.2014 10:02, schrieb Lance Java:
> >
> >> I think having tapestry-ioc and tapestry (the web framework) is a bit
> >> confusing. I also feel that it hinders the promotion / adoption of
> >> tapestry-ioc as a standalone product.
> >>
> >
> > I see your point. I don't really have a strong opinion about that matter,
> > but here we go.
> >
> >  1. Do you agree that tapestry-ioc should be renamed?
> >>
> >
> > No. That's in terms of "should", not "could". I'm not against a rename, I
> > just don't think it's necessary.
> >
> >  2. Do you think it should be called hivemind?
> >>
> >
> > No. I also think that the name hivemind is taken and we shouldn't
> > resurrect it. People would probably start to dig out old documentation
> and
> > mailing list threads.
> >
> >  3. Do you have an alternative name?
> >>
> >
> > What about something with a relation to the word "tapestry"? Something
> > like cotton, cloth, fabric (hm, I like that one, but there's at least
> > http://www.fabfile.org/ and http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/fabric/).
> >
> >  4. Should a rename be done as part of 5.4 or 5.5?
> >>
> >
> > I assume that's an XOR. ;-) I guess it depends on how thorough we want
> the
> > change to be. Do we also want to rename all the packages and classes with
> > "IOC" in them? Then we'd probably even have to wait for 6.0. If it's just
> > the name and the documentation, I think we could do it for 5.4.
> >
> > Jochen
> >
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