Definitely. I'm already working on an offline document. I hope to have
something on the wiki by EOD today (PST).

On Wed, Mar 2, 2016, 10:34 AM Stian Soiland-Reyes <[email protected]> wrote:

> +1! Would you be OK to start? I guess Andy's list is a good starting
> point. I can add my "shell tricks" where they fit. (and then we can
> remove the more evil ones :))
>
> On 2 March 2016 at 17:42, Gale Naylor <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I like the "what do i do now" section. What if we develop it in the wiki
> > and then, when we're happy with it, migrate it to the community section
> of
> > the website?
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 7:18 AM Stian Soiland-Reyes <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Yeah, we can develop it in the wiki, or append it to
> >> http://taverna.incubator.apache.org/community/releasing perhaps?
> >>
> >> There should be a "I received a VOTE email, what do I do now?" section.
> >>
> >> On 2 March 2016 at 11:59, Ian Dunlop <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > Hello,
> >> >
> >> > I think we need to capture all these tricks somewhere. Stian
> suggested we
> >> > propose updating the 'official' apache release page - sounds like a
> good
> >> > idea - but I think we could add it to the taverna pages first and then
> >> > maybe send a link to it to the (I don't know) incubator list to gauge
> >> > interest.
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> >
> >> > Ian
> >> >
> >> > On 1 March 2016 at 22:42, Gale Naylor <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Thank you, Stian! Some of my questions I figured out today, but some
> I
> >> did
> >> >> not, so I very much appreciate the hints and instructions.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 2:28 PM Stian Soiland-Reyes <[email protected]
> >
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Thanks for reviewing!
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >  > (1) How do I verify that the commit id in the downloaded files
> >> matches
> >> >> > that
> >> >> > > in the VOTE email? (I've looked on the internet, but have yet to
> >> find
> >> >> > > anything helpful.)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I don't think most people check this deeply.. but I guess at least
> one
> >> >> > voter should.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Here's what I do:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > mkdir 1 ; cd 1  # new folder
> >> >> > git clone that-repository
> >> >> > git checkout that-commit-id-from-the-email-asdfjaskdjfsakjdfksajdf
> >> >> > rm -rf *
> >> >> > unzip ../the-release-candidate.zip
> >> >> > mv apache-taverna-*/* .  (one level up)
> >> >> > git status
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Git will then check the checksums of every file and let you know
> what
> >> >> > has 'changed' (as it would believe you have edited it).
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Here's another way that doesn't require using the 'git' command:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Download the git commit corresponding to the email by browsing for
> it
> >> on
> >> >> > GitHub:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-taverna-language/tree/66866a5454ed23262c055f65155d7a195c68a17d
> >> >> > Click "Download ZIP"
> >> >> >
> >> >> > mkdir 1 ; cd 1
> >> >> > unzip ../66866a5454ed23262c055f65155d7a195c68a17d.zip
> >> >> >
> >> >> > cd ../ ; mkdir 2 ; cd 2
> >> >> > unzip release-candidate.zip
> >> >> >
> >> >> > cd ..
> >> >> > diff -uR 1 2
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The files that differ (and their differences!) will be shown.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Make sure you don't have any target/ folders before diff-ing (run
> mvn
> >> >> > clean to be sure)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If you do the above with a git clone instead - remember that the
> zip
> >> >> > doesn't include the .git/ folder - so you would have to delete the
> >> >> > checked out .git folder before diffing.  (Don't do this on your
> >> >> > regular checkout as you would lose all local branches!)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > (2) Are the "binary artifacts" in the target folders? Which files
> >> are
> >> >> > > considered "binary artifacts?"
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Well, the target/ files are binary artifacts, but they (should)
> have
> >> >> > been made by your build on your machine - not be part of the source
> >> >> > ZIP.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > One thing to look out for is in the downloaded source ZIP that
> there
> >> >> > are no unexpected binary artifacts in it *before you build* - e.g.
> >> >> > there should not be any *.jars in there.  (The source distribution
> >> >> > should be 'clean'). We do have some *expected* binaries, pictures
> and
> >> >> > test workflows for instance.  As those can't have license headers
> they
> >> >> > should be declared in NOTICE/LICENSE if they came from
> third-parties.
> >> >> > (E.g. if we used a Creative Commons-licensed JPEG picture)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > In terms of release candidate, the binaries would be installers and
> >> >> > JARs etc., under
> >> >> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/taverna/binaries/
> >> >> > (But there are none for this release candidate)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ..in addition to the JARs that have been staged to the Maven
> >> repository
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachetaverna-1011/org/apache/taverna/
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > (3) How do I verify that the build produces the binaries? By
> visual
> >> >> > > inspection? What am I looking for?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > As for checking the Maven repository, if you want to do it really
> >> >> > proper you should check that all the JARs that are staged can be
> built
> >> >> > from the downloaded release candidate ZIP - e.g. that your target/
> >> >> > folder contains all of the same ones.   If I do this, I do a
> recursive
> >> >> > wget of the repository, and then compare the result of "find .
> -name
> >> >> > '*jar'"  in the wget-tree with */*/target/*.jar.  I don't think
> most
> >> >> > people do this.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Paranoid-mode would be to download each JAR and check that they
> only
> >> >> > have the same *.class files - but these would differ for every
> build
> >> >> > and so can't be compared any further without lots of clever
> tooling -
> >> >> > so nobody does this. (I think there should be an Apache-hosted
> tool or
> >> >> > Maven plugin that could do this).
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Practically the best is just to click briefly into the repository
> in a
> >> >> > browser and see there are not any 'additional' folders that
> shouldn't
> >> >> > be there, e.g. we are now voting on taverna-maven-parent,
> taverna-osgi
> >> >> > and taverna-language, and so we should not see
> >> >> > org/apache/taverna/engine in there - as that is a group Id from
> >> >> > taverna-engine.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > (We have already changed the groupIDs to correspond to the
> repository
> >> >> > which corresponds to the release name, so at least that
> correspondance
> >> >> > is easy to check on Taverna, but not so on many other projects).
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > As binary releases from Apache Software Foundation are considered
> >> >> > "convenience only" they are not crucial for the vote - the source
> >> >> > release is the golden thing which everything else should be made
> from.
> >> >> > Practically speaking "everyone" uses the JARs from Maven repository
> >> >> > though, so I wouldn't dismiss them totally - at least one person in
> >> >> > the vote should do such a check.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > (4) How do I check the dependencies?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > mvn dependency:tree gives a nice list - but what should you check
> for?
> >> >> > Well, it's mainly about licensing -
> >> >> > http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html lists what is
> compatible as
> >> >> > dependencies of an ASF release.  Now you don't need to go through
> the
> >> >> > list - but sometimes there are Well Known forbidden dependencies
> that
> >> >> > People (tm) recognize -e.g. mysql-connector and Hibernate are
> banned
> >> >> > as they are (L)GPL.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Luckily there's another Maven plugin that can do the job:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > mvn license:aggregate-add-third-party
> >> >> >
> >> >> > cat target/generated-sources/license/THIRD-PARTY.txt | sort
> >> >> >
> >> >> >      (Aduna BSD license) OpenRDF Sesame: HTTP client
> >> >> > (org.openrdf.sesame:sesame-http-client:2.7.0 -
> >> >> > http://www.openrdf.org/sesame-core/sesame-http/sesame-http-client/
> )
> >> >> >      (Aduna BSD license) OpenRDF Sesame: HTTP protocol
> >> >> > (org.openrdf.sesame:sesame-http-protocol:2.7.0 -
> >> >> >
> http://www.openrdf.org/sesame-core/sesame-http/sesame-http-protocol/)
> >> >> > (..)
> >> >> >      (The Apache Software License, Version 2.0) Xerces2-j
> >> >> > (xerces:xercesImpl:2.11.0 - https://xerces.apache.org/xerces2-j/)
> >> >> >      (Unknown license) commons-beanutils
> >> >> > (commons-beanutils:commons-beanutils:1.7.0 - no url defined)
> >> >> >      (Unknown license) com.springsource.org.jaxen
> >> >> > (org.jaxen:com.springsource.org.jaxen:1.1.1 - no url defined)
> >> >> >      (Unknown license) com.springsource.org.jdom
> >> >> > (org.jdom:com.springsource.org.jdom:1.1.0 - no url defined)
> >> >> >      (Unknown license) Logging
> (commons-logging:commons-logging:1.0.3
> >> >> > - http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/logging/)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > (BTW, those last 4 are already checked to be OK, see
> >> >> >
> http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/Third-party+licenses
> >> )
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > Regarding the build output: Since this is the first time I've
> done
> >> >> this,
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > > don't know what's okay to ignore. Here is a summary of the
> warning
> >> >> > messages
> >> >> > > I received when I ran mvn clean install. I sent the output to two
> >> >> > different
> >> >> > > files using the following command (Windows 10/ GitBash): mvn
> clean
> >> >> > install
> >> >> > >> output1.txt 2> output2.txt. I appreciate any insight.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Great!   I think those should be tracked in JIRA as we want to
> reduce
> >> >> > warnings.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Generally with Maven, if it finishes with a big SUCCESS, then
> that's
> >> >> > true. The warnings are more like warnings for the developers doing
> >> >> > bad-practice-stuff than warnings about something going wrong with
> the
> >> >> > build.   Often the fixes are simple, like adding a @Deprecated tag
> >> >> > where you delibately use old APIs, or actually follow the fix
> >> >> > suggested by the warning.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I think we want to follow Andy's advice and "release early, release
> >> >> > often" - which entails a "good enough" - not "super-perfect".
> >> >> > Obviously each committer votes independenly by their own quality
> >> >> > measures.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > While Apache Software Foundation always says that community is
> king -
> >> >> > the Apache name is still recognized by the public as a kind of
> >> >> > "quality mark" - if that is deserved or not I won't comment on,
> but of
> >> >> > course there is also a sense of pride in that we don't want to set
> the
> >> >> > standard too low.  :)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > (E.g. Taverna just cancelled 3 release candidates as they didn't
> pass
> >> >> > all their tests on Windows - but the community of another Apache
> >> >> > project might not consider Windows important enough to halt a
> release)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Stian Soiland-Reyes
> >> >> > Apache Taverna (incubating), Apache Commons RDF (incubating)
> >> >> > http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Stian Soiland-Reyes
> >> Apache Taverna (incubating), Apache Commons RDF (incubating)
> >> http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
> >>
>
>
>
> --
> Stian Soiland-Reyes
> Apache Taverna (incubating), Apache Commons RDF (incubating)
> http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
>

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