On 4/5/07, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 4/5/07, Greg Reddin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 4/5/07, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > 2. The "public" redundant modifier is declared illegal in that
> > > checkstyle file, but I think that it is not so bad.
> >
> >
> > Here I disagree. IMHO, using 'public' in interfaces demonstrates a
lack of
> > clarity. It constitutes "noise" in the interface definition that
hinders
> > rapid comprehension. When someone reads through a set of interfaces
and
> > sees
> > 'public' scattered around, they're likely to stop and wonder if the
author
> > had some purpose to specifying 'public' that they should try to
> > understand,
> > when in reality the author was simply not thinking clearly enough to
> > translate their thoughts into accurate interface definitions. We
should
> > always strive for maximum communication bandwidth, and not clutter the
> > code
> > with things that readers will trip over and have to stop and wonder
about.

-0  hindering rapid comprehension is *highly* subjective.  it depends
on what you are trying to comprehend and what you are used to.  in
this instance that is apparently different for you and me. :)

>
> Interesting.  I've always preferred to be explicit and express things
that
> are true by default.

agreed.   i also like that the method signature looks like it does in
the implementation class.   i prefer the consistency...


This is a perfect demonstration of my point. Creating interfaces is a design
activity; creating implementation classes is an implementation activity.
They *should* be distinct, and you *should* be thinking differently when you
write them. Making them look the same confuses these two very different
activities and can lead to poor interface design.

--
Martin Cooper


For example, I use "this." a lot (though probably not
> consistently enough to communicate anything).  I can see your point but
the
> lack of the public modifier would "hinder rapid comprehension" for me,
just
> because I'm used to seeing it there.  (To be real honest I didn't
realize it
> was defaulted until I read this - though it makes sense).
>
> So should we cater to those who don't know the language well enough or
cater
> to those who prefer language purit?  Personally, I still prefer the
former
> because I like being explicit, but I won't die on that hill.  I'm
willing to
> be convinced otherwise :-)

i don't really care.  to me it's a fairly trivial preference.  and
whatever "hindrance" the lack of "public" might be to my comprehension
is entirely negligible. :)

> Greg
>

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