+1 on a steady dedication period.

The risk of people leaving stale projects behind them is otherwise much bigger.

/peter

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On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 9:59 PM, Marko Rodriguez <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I don't think Committer == PPMC. We have had issues in the past which we dub 
> "commit and split." People get so excited about TinkerPop, have their boss 
> supporting them to work on it, do all these features, make lots of promises, 
> and then like a ghost….nothing…. "hello, can you finish?… can you update?…" 
> nothing….
>
> I think a PPMC is someone who has shown at least 1+ years of steady 
> dedication to TinkerPop and can demonstrate that they are doing this beyond 
> the fleeting moments of "their job."
>
> My thoughts,
> Marko.
>
> http://markorodriguez.com
>
> On Mar 6, 2015, at 12:20 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> In general, from painful experience, I do encourage distinguishing between 
>> the two. I agree with David that right now it's less of an issue. My rule of 
>> thumb is:
>>
>> 1. if you trust one with the code: vote him as a committer
>> 2. if you trust one with shepherding the community: vote him a (P)PMC member.
>>
>> Usually there is some extra mentoring needed to jump from 1. to 2. In your 
>> case, Daniel seems to be ready for PPMC, I believe both is best.
>>
>> My $0.02,
>> Hadrian
>>
>>
>> On 03/06/2015 02:05 PM, David Nalley wrote:
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> I wanted to bring up this discussion. It may have already been
>>> discussed, but I couldn't find a record of it in a brief search.
>>>
>>> Currently all committers are also PPMC members, but if/when we go
>>> about adding contributors, do we want to make a distinction between
>>> committers and PPMC members?
>>>
>>> Many large projects do make a distinction; it allows them to give
>>> commit access easier. For a podling the only real addition you get by
>>> being a PPMC member is being added to the private list and having a
>>> say on new committers/PPMC members. Once you graduate you get binding
>>> votes on releases, as well as more certain control over the direction
>>> of the project.
>>>
>>> This project is relatively small in terms of numbers of committers at
>>> this point, so I'd tend to lean towards committers being PPMC members
>>> by default.
>>>
>>> Thoughts, comments, flames?
>>>
>>> --David
>>>
>

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