Hi folks, A number of the mentors (Daniel, Rich, and I), along with several other IPMC members were in Budapest for ApacheCon; while there we discussed the state of Tinkerpop, it's incubation, and a number of other topics. I wanted to bring one of those topics here to foster a larger discussion, and perhaps for the community to decide on a way forward.
After a lot of deliberation and thinking both together and individually, I think we reached an inflection point for ourselves. While I don't want to speak for the others, I will state my opinion. I think it's become apparent that Tinkerpop as a project and a community is not a fit for the Apache Software Foundation, and I see little potential for that to change. This is not a statement that Tinkerpop is bad or evil. The ASF isn't the only place projects live to be successful, nor is the Apache Way the only method that successful projects adopt. That said, the ASF cares deeply about it's existing culture and that the communities that are here adopt "the Apache Way"; that's actually a core tenant to accomplish during incubation. That leads me (speaking only for myself) to believe that you would thrive better elsewhere, rather than chafing and being unhappy, and eventually failing to graduate. --David
