Hi,

I like the second too. Then the third.

Marko.

> On Apr 9, 2016, at 4:48 AM, Daniel Kuppitz <m...@gremlin.guru> wrote:
> 
> +1 for the 2nd. Looks much cleaner IMO.
> 
> Cheers,
> Daniel
> 
> 
> On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Dylan Millikin <dylan.milli...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> I'm running a few tests as per marko's suggestions. I'm in need of a bit of
>> help in the form of your opinions on these three images. They're three
>> different ways of displaying output:
>> 
>> GremlinBin standard console output. This is roughly how it is today and is
>> my personal favorite:
>> 
>> http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae305/DylanMillikin/Screen%20Shot%202016-04-09%20at%2012.24.13_zpsymbn7cr0.png
>> 
>> Terminal console which is the same as the terminal, I find the readability
>> lower here but it's homogenous with the actual console:
>> 
>> http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae305/DylanMillikin/Screen%20Shot%202016-04-09%20at%2012.25.09_zpselrb46mb.png
>> 
>> Terminal with bold query :
>> 
>> http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae305/DylanMillikin/Screen%20Shot%202016-04-09%20at%2012.25.41_zpsbr985qvb.png
>> 
>> My stance is probably biased by the fact that I spend limited time using
>> the actual Gremlin console. Which do you guys prefer?
>> 
>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Dylan Millikin <dylan.milli...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Awesome feedback Marko. Daniel had brought some of these up as well :
>>> https://github.com/PommeVerte/gremlin-bin/issues/16
>>> 
>>> I was waiting to finalize the console JS part and open sourcing it as
>> some
>>> of the stuff you asked aren't possible on the current system. I will be
>>> upgrading GremlinBin with it today.
>>> 
>>> I really like the idea of being able to select your graph from a visual
>>> set. and I don't mind getting rid of the create your own section.
>>> 
>>> Regarding your points:
>>> 
>>> 1. This is now possible and easy to add.
>>> 2. I kept the line breaks to make the json readable but couldn't make
>>> separate behaviors for json vs text. Now with the update this should also
>>> be possible.
>>> 3. I would like to think about this a bit more. I'm not against the idea,
>>> I just had plans for the right section of the input bar so I'll need to
>> see
>>> how I could adapt.
>>> 4. This can be done now as well.
>>> 5. I have some sandboxing issues/reservations here. Once I work through
>>> them I can do this.
>>> 6. That's a really good idea.
>>> 
>>> One last note about the grateful-dead graph. The current visualization
>>> system chokes on the graph. So this is going to take a bit more work
>>> because it requires a viz update.
>>> 
>>> I should be implementing some of these over the weekend. And I will
>>> announce the js console release at the beginning of next week.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Marko Rodriguez <okramma...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Dylan,
>>>> 
>>>> I've been seeing Gremlinbin in action a lot lately (mainly through
>>>> Daniel's answers to users on the mailing list). I like it, of course,
>> but
>>>> there are a few things that still bug me about it that I think (if you
>> also
>>>> think) would make it better. Here is the laundry list.
>>>> 
>>>> --------------------
>>>> 
>>>> The + (New) page is really janky 1990's HTML form-cheesy looking.
>>>> 
>>>> We have a graphic for each graph you display there.
>> http://tinkerpop.apache.org/docs/3.1.1-incubating/images/tinkerpop-modern.png
>> http://tinkerpop.apache.org/docs/3.1.1-incubating/images/the-crew-graph.png
>>>>        ** I would not provide classic. Just modern. No reason to
>> confuse
>>>> people.
>>>>        ** You should also provide the GratefulDead graph with the
>>>> visualization being its schema:
>> http://tinkerpop.apache.org/docs/3.1.1-incubating/images/grateful-dead-schema.png
>>>> 
>>>> I don't know what good UI trick to use, but to have it where people can
>>>> look at the graphic when selecting which graph to use would be neat.
>> This
>>>> pull down form menu is just really fuggly and what does "modern" mean? …
>>>> "crew" ? … Maybe even have a little blurb of text under each graphic
>> saying
>>>> what the graph is about?….
>>>> 
>>>> Next, the "create your own" is sort weird. I don't think it should be
>>>> there. If people want to create their own, they would choose empty graph
>>>> and then in the console do their addV(), addE() mutations traversals to
>>>> create the graph (and see it visualized as they are creating it!).
>>>> 
>>>> Finally, perhaps a little Gremlin character on this page to give it some
>>>> pizazz.
>>>> 
>>>> --------------------
>>>> 
>>>> The console area should really really really (really) look identical to
>>>> the Gremlin Console.
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Start off with the \___/ Gremlin ASCII character and all.
>>>> 2. There shouldn't be line breaks between the gremlin> lines.
>>>> 3. You should type your query at the bottom, not at the top.
>>>> 4. You should break up the graph loading into multiple steps:
>>>>        gremlin> graph = TinkerGraph.open()
>>>>        gremlin> graph = graph.traversal()
>>>> 5. You should not use TinkerFactory as newbies will go "uhhh?". Perhaps
>>>> load from GraphML or GraphSON.
>>>>        gremlin> graph.io(graphml()).readGraph('data/the-crew.xml')
>>>> 6. The console area should have an option to export the graph as
>> GraphML,
>>>> GraphSON, or Gryo. This way people can take their graph with them.
>>>> 
>>>> --------------------
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Anywho, just some thoughts. If any of them resonate with you, I can add
>>>> them to your issue tracker. Just tell me which, if any.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Marko.
>>>> 
>>>> http://markorodriguez.com
>> 

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