https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=62371

--- Comment #19 from Alex <alex.cheve...@gmail.com> ---
> If you'd like to debate Tomcat's development methodologies, release cycles, 
> or test-coverage, you are welcome to join the dev mailing list.

I don't know if this reply should go there but:

(In reply to Christopher Schultz from comment #18)
> (In reply to Alex from comment #16)
> You are presuming that there were no 9.0.x releases (beta!) which included
> this change with no comments for months. In fact, it was included in 9.0.2
> with logging, then completed in 9.0.5 as Mark details in comment #14. I
> think this qualifies as a reasonably-slow roll-out. There is no reason to
> wait many years to change things... the alternative is an internet where it
> takes 20 years to widely-deploy new encryption capabilities (TLS) and
> effectively NEVER to properly-implement some IETF specifications (e.g.
> cookies). Sometimes you have to just have to remove the headphone jack.

I don't see the reason for catching the error and removing logging. This is not
about timeframe or moving progress.
The second point - I would prefer to have workaround. For the workaround the
timeframe is important and two months between releases seems to be really quick
cause upgrade cycle is not so fast usually, I guess. I think there should be
more than a year before removing the workaround if it was provided.

> You took the big step of a 4-major-release-version jump and seem incensed 
> that things aren't working exactly as they had worked before. This is the 
> purpose of testing.

Agree, but I'm talking about logging here.

> Instead of complaining bitterly, how about a
> "thanks for the 5-day turnaround on a blocking issue I'm having"? If you
> wanted zero changes, you should have stayed on the version where you were.

Thanks for the 5-day turnaround! Really fast! For some libraries I know it
would take a year... and more than 20 years for the internet! )

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