Sorry that it takes so long, but I am rather overwhelmed nowadays, and I need to set priorities...
сб, 9 мар. 2019 г. в 00:15, Igal @ Lucee.org <i...@lucee.org>: > > All, > > On 3/7/2019 3:22 AM, Konstantin Kolinko wrote: > > > пн, 4 мар. 2019 г. в 09:02, Igal Sapir <i...@lucee.org>: > >> I have uploaded the Tomcat site redesign to a temporary location for > >> review: > >> http://people.apache.org/~isapir/mockups/tomcat-site/ > > 1. Overall: Thank you for your effort, but I do not like it. At all. > > The effort to redesign the website was prompted by conversations with > team members at TomcatCon in Montreal. OK, but what are the specific issues that were raised? (There is a rule at ASF is that "if it did not happen on a mailing list, it did not happen". It means that offline discussions are OK, but there needs to be some written summary.) > Fair enough, but I wish you had expressed that two months ago when we were > going over the layout: > https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@tomcat.apache.org/msg130453.html > > [,,,] > > I had to work with the constraints of ASF guidelines. There is a longer > discussion about this in the thread mentioned above. Is there an ASF Guidelines document? (Maybe you have a link? There might be such document, but I do not remember seeing it. I though that the previous thread had a link, but I have not found such link there. A whimsy tool was mentioned, but the tool checks for required contents. It is not about style guidelines. What am I missing?) https://whimsy.apache.org/site/ > If there is consensus in the team for keeping the layout with a vertical > menu on the left then I can redesign that. I guess the same design will be later used for the Tomcat Documentation web application, http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-9.0-doc/index.html My main concern is that the documentation is printable and is easy to use as a reference document. 1) Not being able to print is a show-stopper. (Really.) Anything else is just a personal preference. 2) Left-side menu allows to navigate to a needed page with a single click. I really like this feature of this menu. > It utilizes the Bootstrap 4 framework and is very trendy. One announcement that made a big impression for me in year 2018 was this one: https://twitter.com/mislav/status/1022058279000842240 "We’re finally finished removing jQuery from http://GitHub.com frontend" [...] Regarding concerns raised in a subsequent thread on this topic "Tomcat Website Redesign" thread https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@tomcat.apache.org/msg132281.html > a) Do nothing, i.e. keep the website as-is [1] for now > > [...] > IMO option (a) is not good because the site is very outdated and not mobile > friendly. Many users nowadays view sites on their phones and/or > tablets, which a modern design can address. The current site was redesigned several years ago. (See the log history of "/xdocs/stylesheets/tomcat-site.xsl" file) I think it should be mobile-friendly. What are the specific issues? Is it possible to make changes in small incremental reversible steps? Best regards, Konstantin Kolinko --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@tomcat.apache.org
