Are you reading the thread?  I mentioned dec 17 that geronimo has been 
maintaining a script for 2+ years that pulls tomcat source out of tomcat svn 
and puts it in an appropriately structured maven mutli-project build and we've 
been re-releasing quite a few tomcat versions using this technique.  Not sure 
how this is "talk".  I've experienced enough hostility over the years from the 
tomcat community (not necessarily any currently active members) that I'm 
reluctant to spend more time on this.

As I have said before in previous iterations of this topic, IMO many of the 
advantages of maven are not for direct development of the project itself 
(although they certainly exist) but in encouraging interactions with other 
projects and communities.  You won't be able to detect these without actually 
using maven.

To repeat..
This stuff is under 
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/external/trunk/tomcat-archetype with 
e.g an example of what you get from the script 
underhttps://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/external/trunk/tomcat-parent-7.0.19

david jencks

On Dec 19, 2011, at 10:20 AM, Mladen Turk wrote:

> On 12/19/2011 07:04 PM, Henri Gomez wrote:
>>> Exactly. Since any change would require a learning curve
>>> and it seems we don't have that many (read none) maven
>>> experts in the house, Gradle could be equally considered,
>>> given that it seems more advanced in customization.
>> 
>> I know well Maven but Olivier (Lamy) is a Maven expert, so there is
>> friend in the business.
>> And there is a full Maven PMC not too far ready to provide advices and help.
>> Not counting Tomcat consumers ASF projects like OpenEJB.
>> 
> 
> All I have seen so far is talk and talk and more talk.
> There is trunk, branches, sandbox, so anyone is free to
> make a proposal and if things work, I'll be the first
> one supporting it.
> 
> Amount of work we invest in build.xml is negligible
> compared to the rest of the codebase, and I expect maven
> will provide such environment. If not, meaning we
> would need a couple of developers hacking pom's all the
> time, then a big -1.
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> -- 
> ^TM
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