Hi,

Do you think there is a way to configure queues and topics in tomee.xml
using a property key that contains the destination name ? From what I see,
the property key is used to match a setter or field. Any way to write
configuration like this ?

queues.foo = read=..., write=..., admin=...

queues.myQueue = read=..., write=..., admin=...

topics.myTopic = read=..., write=..., admin=...


If not, I will have to go with something less readable, something like :

queues = foo(read=..., write=..., admin=...), myQueue(read=..., write=...,
> admin=...)
> topics = myTopic(read=..., write=..., admin=...)


Thanks.

--
Marian MULLER
SERLI


On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Basically provide what you need (or what you think you'll need) - and
> what you find fun ;). If sby needs more we'll add it later.
>
>
>
>
> Romain Manni-Bucau
> Twitter: @rmannibucau
> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
> LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
>
>
> 2014-06-05 15:14 GMT+02:00 Marian Muller <[email protected]>:
> > The AuthorizationPlugin would also require to specify the destination
> type.
> > And maybe the support for temp destinations configuration.
> > This plugin also supports different kinds of "authorization maps",
> > including LDAP and CachedLDAP. But maybe this is out of the scope for
> now.
> >
> > Regarding the generic resource factory, in the beginning I felt like I
> was
> > missing this kind of feature. But factories really do the job and allow
> to
> > customize the configuration.
> > Compared to factories, I think a generic resource factory would lead to
> > less readable configuration (multiple resources to declare), and -
> > depending on the class structure - may not solve all the problems (e.g.
> > complex collection attributes, like a Map<String, Set<...>> would still
> not
> > be supported).
> >
> > Anyway I will define a configuration/factory for AuthorizationPlugin.
> >
> > Regarding the factories, do you think this is OK to provide a limited set
> > for a few plugins?
> >
> > --
> > Marian MULLER
> > SERLI
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> [email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Depend but if you think to authorizationplugin something like it could
> >> work:
> >>
> >> <Resource id="..." class-name="...">
> >>     queue1 = read=user;admins,write=admin;sudo,admin=admin
> >> </Resource>
> >>
> >> We can still support a generic resource factory understading $dddd as
> >> a lookup to do on dddd. This way you can wire beans together
> >> genericly.
> >>
> >> That said not sure there are enough specific plugins which would need
> it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Romain Manni-Bucau
> >> Twitter: @rmannibucau
> >> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
> >> LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
> >> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
> >>
> >>
> >> 2014-06-05 14:31 GMT+02:00 Marian Muller <[email protected]>:
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for the tip. Using a factory is the way to go.
> >> > After adding a factory/service provider in service-jar.xml, I can use
> the
> >> > following configuration:
> >> >
> >> >  <Resource id="MyAMQPlugin" type="AMQSimpleAuthenticationPlugin">
> >> >>     UserPasswords =  user1=password1 \n user2=password2 \n
> >> >> manager=password3
> >> >>     UserGroups    =  user1=users \n user2=users \n
> manager=users,admin
> >> >
> >> >     # Anonymous access configuration is optional
> >> >
> >> >     AnonymousUser = guest
> >> >
> >> >     AnonymousGroup = guest
> >> >
> >> >     AnonymousAccessAllowed = true
> >> >
> >> > </Resource>
> >> >> <Resource id="MyJmsResourceAdapter" type="ActiveMQResourceAdapter">
> >> >>     BrokerXmlConfig =  broker:(tcp://localhost:61617)
> >> >>     ServerUrl       =  tcp://localhost:61617
> >> >>     Plugins         =  [MyAMQPlugin]
> >> >> </Resource>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > This works well for the SImpleAuthenticationPlugin, and I can set
> >> multiple
> >> > plugins for a given ActiveMQResourceAdapter.
> >> > Now I am having a look at the other ActiveMQ plugins. Some require
> much
> >> > more complex configuration (e.g. AuthorizationPlugin) and others do
> not
> >> > even require a factory (e.g. JaasAuthenticationPlugin and its
> >> subclasses).
> >> >
> >> > How do you think this should be made generic to support any plugin ?
> >> > Providing a factory for every "built-in" AMQ plugins may be feasible,
> but
> >> > would certainly be a hassle for a not-so-complete support. And users
> >> would
> >> > still have to implement a factory for their custom or third-party
> >> plugins.
> >> > We could also simply provide a limited toolset of factories for
> >> > authentication related plugins (without declaring them as service
> >> > providers) and write a detailed documentation on how to
> >> configure/implement
> >> > a custom factory for the other plugins ?
> >> > In any case, ActiveMQResourceAdapter would accept any BrokerPlugin
> beans,
> >> > and set them up in the ActiveMQ broker (which is the part where it
> must
> >> be
> >> > generic!).
> >> >
> >> > What do you think?
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Marian MULLER
> >> > SERLI
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> >> [email protected]>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> For these advanced cases we provide a factory in openejb users rely
> on
> >> (all
> >> >> container are done this way for instance). So just use the config you
> >> want,
> >> >> get properties injected in your factory and declare the class-name
> >> >> attribute of your resource with the value of the qualified name of
> the
> >> >> factory.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Romain Manni-Bucau
> >> >> Twitter: @rmannibucau
> >> >> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
> >> >> LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
> >> >> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> 2014-06-03 18:22 GMT+02:00 Marian Muller <[email protected]>:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Hi Romain,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I had a look at the XBean property editors to configure AMQ plugins
> >> from
> >> >> > TomEE configuration file. I can easily set the userPasswords for
> the
> >> >> > SimpleAuthenticationPlugin
> >> >> > class (it is a simple Map<String,String>), but the userGroups
> >> property is
> >> >> > not as easy (it is a Map<String, Set<Principal>>). Which makes me
> >> wonder
> >> >> if
> >> >> > XBean properties are appropriate for complex objects like AMQ
> >> plugins. I
> >> >> > did not yet look at the other plugins, but I guess they could
> become
> >> even
> >> >> > more complex that the rather-simple authentication plugin.
> >> >> > And is there a way to instantiate such objects using XBean
> properties
> >> >> > without hard-coding converters for plugin-specific classes (like
> >> >> > GroupPrincipal, AuthenticationUser, ...).
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Marian MULLER
> >> >> > SERLI
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> >> >> [email protected]
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > Hi
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I think the solution without activemq.xml is great. We could
> make a
> >> >> > default
> >> >> > > jars.txt a user could drop in conf/ to add all the required
> >> >> dependencies
> >> >> > if
> >> >> > > it helps but putting spring is the container is not a good idea
> as
> >> >> > default
> >> >> > > solution. In particular for this case where we know how to get it
> >> >> > properly
> >> >> > > done.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Side note: would be great to be able to do a network of brokers
> >> between
> >> >> > > tomee instances too.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Romain Manni-Bucau
> >> >> > > Twitter: @rmannibucau
> >> >> > > Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
> >> >> > > LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
> >> >> > > Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > 2014-06-03 10:23 GMT+02:00 Marian Muller <
> [email protected]>:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > > Hi Andy,
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > Thanks for the insight. I think we need to take some time and
> >> discuss
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > > > topic, before going further.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > I understand your point about the simple "built-in" solution
> being
> >> >> what
> >> >> > > its
> >> >> > > > name suggests: a simple solution for running localhost/vm-only
> >> >> broker.
> >> >> > > This
> >> >> > > > makes much sense! And I also believe there is a need for a deep
> >> >> > > > understanding of ActiveMQ configuration, when addressing more
> >> complex
> >> >> > > > situations.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > I think the activemq.xml file fits this description, however I
> >> also
> >> >> > think
> >> >> > > > the Spring requirement may be a hurdle to some users. The TomEE
> >> >> > > > website mentions
> >> >> > > > the need for Spring and XBean libraries
> >> >> > > > <http://tomee.apache.org/jms-resources-and-mdb-container.html
> >,
> >> yet
> >> >> I
> >> >> > > hit
> >> >> > > > a
> >> >> > > > few issues when following the instructions:
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > 1/ Adding the 5 mentioned jars (spring-* and xbean-spring) is
> not
> >> >> > enough,
> >> >> > > > there is still a ClassNotFoundException
> >> >> > > > (org.apache.activemq.xbean.XBeanBrokerFactory) when using
> >> >> > > > 'xbean:file:conf/activemq.xml'. It looks like the
> activemq-spring
> >> jar
> >> >> > is
> >> >> > > > also required here.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > 2/ Maybe I missed something here, but I was not able to load
> the
> >> >> > > > activemq.xml file using a relative path as suggested in TomEE
> >> >> > > > documentation. I just keep getting a FileNotFoundException.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > Do you think we could improve the user experience wrt
> integrating
> >> the
> >> >> > > > activemq.xml configuration file ? Maybe by making this a bit
> >> clearer
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > > > easier to get all the required dependencies ?
> >> >> > > > Adding a way to declare AMQ plugins within tomee configuration
> >> file -
> >> >> > as
> >> >> > > > suggested by previous posts - would also make it simpler for
> >> users.
> >> >> > > > Although I agree it would be better to stick to AMQ
> configuration
> >> >> > syntax.
> >> >> > > > And about point 2, did I miss something ?
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > Thanks.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > --
> >> >> > > > Marian MULLER
> >> >> > > > SERLI
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Andy Gumbrecht <
> >> >> > > [email protected]>
> >> >> > > > wrote:
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > > Hi Marian,
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > I have always been of the opinion that the default
> >> configuration is
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > > > > simple way, and more complex scenarios need a more complex
> >> >> solution,
> >> >> > > > > and a really deep understanding of ActiveMQ configuration.
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > The simple solution is seen as a localhost/vm only solution
> >> which
> >> >> > never
> >> >> > > > > goes outside the box - The clients do not see or access the
> MQ
> >> >> > > directly.
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > The complex solutions starts with your scenario - Clients
> should
> >> >> have
> >> >> > > > > remote access and authenticate (and that is a massive step,
> not
> >> to
> >> >> be
> >> >> > > > taken
> >> >> > > > > lightly).
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > So where to address that?
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > Romain's plugin idea works, but seems like an awful lot of
> work
> >> to
> >> >> > > > replace
> >> >> > > > > something that is in effect already there -
> >> >> > > > > The 'xbean:file:conf/activemq.xml'.
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > I was also initially annoyed by the whole Spring requirement
> >> for a
> >> >> > > > > 'simple' XML file, but that's an ActiveMQ issue which we
> have to
> >> >> live
> >> >> > > > with
> >> >> > > > > if we want to configure it.
> >> >> > > > > Once you use it there really is no issue. To add all that
> >> endless
> >> >> > > > > functionality to OpenEJB is really outside the box in my
> >> opinion. A
> >> >> > few
> >> >> > > > > megs of jars isn't really such a big issue.
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > If you start to dig in to ActiveMQ conf (
> >> >> http://activemq.apache.org/
> >> >> > > > > version-5-xml-configuration.html) then you'll understand why
> >> they
> >> >> > maybe
> >> >> > > > > opted for the Spring XBean configuration.
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > What is your greater picture here? Why do you want to allow
> >> remote
> >> >> MQ
> >> >> > > > > clients to authenticate?
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > If we start talking about local application authentication
> then
> >> >> think
> >> >> > > > > 'TomEE cluster', then you're only going to have one ActiveMQ
> >> server
> >> >> > > > > (standalone, and maybe also a cluster) - Aligning
> authentication
> >> >> with
> >> >> > > > TomEE
> >> >> > > > > is probably not going to work.
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > A JDBC realm could be a solution - Both servers authenticate
> can
> >> >> > > > > authenticate against it.
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > But really you'd only need one ActiveMQ user/pw per
> application.
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > Andy.
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > On 30/05/2014 11:35, Marian Muller wrote:
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > >> Hi all,
> >> >> > > > >>
> >> >> > > > >> For starters, let me introduce myself. I am Marian Muller
> and I
> >> >> work
> >> >> > > as
> >> >> > > > a
> >> >> > > > >> Java EE engineer at SERLI. As part of my job, I will
> dedicate
> >> some
> >> >> > > time
> >> >> > > > to
> >> >> > > > >> contributing to TomEE.
> >> >> > > > >>
> >> >> > > > >> I am working on a simpler way to configure authentication in
> >> the
> >> >> > > > embedded
> >> >> > > > >> ActiveMQ broker. Currently, you can easily start the
> embedded
> >> >> broker
> >> >> > > > using
> >> >> > > > >> just a few lines of xml:
> >> >> > > > >>
> >> >> > > > >>
> >> >> > > > >>  <Resource id="MyJmsResourceAdapter"
> >> >> type="ActiveMQResourceAdapter">
> >> >> > > > >>>       BrokerXmlConfig =  broker:(tcp://someHostName:61616)
> >> >> > > > >>>       ServerUrl       =  vm://localhost
> >> >> > > > >>>   </Resource>
> >> >> > > > >>>
> >> >> > > > >>>
> >> >> > > > >> But if you want to add authentication to the broker, you
> need
> >> to
> >> >> > write
> >> >> > > > an
> >> >> > > > >> ActiveMQ xml configuration file, and - that feels a bit
> wrong -
> >> >> you
> >> >> > > need
> >> >> > > > >> to
> >> >> > > > >> add Spring and ActiveMQ libraries in TomEE! (see
> >> >> > > > >>
> http://tomee.apache.org/jms-resources-and-mdb-container.html)
> >> >> > > > >>
> >> >> > > > >> <Resource id="MyJmsResourceAdapter"
> >> >> type="ActiveMQResourceAdapter">
> >> >> > > > >>
> >> >> > > > >>>      BrokerXmlConfig =  xbean:file:conf/activemq.xml
> >> >> > > > >>>      ServerUrl       =  tcp://someHostName:61616</Resource>
> >> >> > > > >>>
> >> >> > > > >>>
> >> >> > > > >>>  I looked up how the ActiveMQ embedded broker is configured
> >> and
> >> >> > > > started,
> >> >> > > > >> and
> >> >> > > > >> I think it should be possible to add an option to the
> resource
> >> >> > adapter
> >> >> > > > to
> >> >> > > > >> specify basic user/password authentication. Now I am
> wondering
> >> >> what
> >> >> > > this
> >> >> > > > >> option should look like ? I see at least three
> possibilities:
> >> >> > > > >>
> >> >> > > > >> a) Specify a list of (username/password/groups) directly in
> the
> >> >> > > > >> ResourceAdapter options (in tomee.xml). This feels a bit
> >> tedious,
> >> >> > > would
> >> >> > > > >> clutter the config file and would require to define a
> specific
> >> >> > syntax.
> >> >> > > > >> b) Specify the path to a file (xml? properties? ...),
> >> containing
> >> >> the
> >> >> > > > list
> >> >> > > > >> of (username/password/groups). This would lighten the
> >> >> configuration
> >> >> > > file
> >> >> > > > >> (tomee.xml) by moving away the verbose stuff.
> >> >> > > > >> c) Maybe we could reuse the existing user database from
> >> >> > > > >> conf/tomcat-users.xml ? This way we only need a single file
> to
> >> >> > > configure
> >> >> > > > >> all the users.
> >> >> > > > >>
> >> >> > > > >>
> >> >> > > > >> This is for the simple username/password authentication,
> which
> >> >> would
> >> >> > > use
> >> >> > > > >> ActiveMQ's SimpleAuthenticationPlugin.
> >> >> > > > >>
> >> >> > > > >> Now maybe a better way to add JMS authentication would be to
> >> reuse
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > > > >> existing Realm, which can be configured by the users. This
> >> would
> >> >> > > > probably
> >> >> > > > >> require to write a custom ActiveMQ plugin that checks
> >> >> authentication
> >> >> > > > >> against the realm. But this would open much more
> authentication
> >> >> > > options!
> >> >> > > > >> Now, if you don't mind, I could use some pointers on how to
> >> reuse
> >> >> > this
> >> >> > > > >> Realm, and also how to define another realm for JMS
> >> authentication
> >> >> > (if
> >> >> > > > the
> >> >> > > > >> user wants so)?
> >> >> > > > >> To me, this feels like a better way to centralize
> >> authentication
> >> >> in
> >> >> > > > Tomcat
> >> >> > > > >> Realms!
> >> >> > > > >>
> >> >> > > > >> What do you think? How do you see JMS authentication?
> >> >> > > > >> Please tell me if I am going the wrong way here.
> >> >> > > > >> I could definitely use the community feedback here! :)
> >> >> > > > >>
> >> >> > > > >> Thank you.
> >> >> > > > >> --
> >> >> > > > >> Marian MULLER
> >> >> > > > >> SERLI
> >> >> > > > >>
> >> >> > > > >>
> >> >> > > > > --
> >> >> > > > >   Andy Gumbrecht
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > >   http://www.tomitribe.com
> >> >> > > > >   [email protected]
> >> >> > > > >   https://twitter.com/AndyGeeDe
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > >   TomEE treibt Tomitribe! | http://tomee.apache.org
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
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