If I am using Tomcat and I integrate TomEE using tomee war, I may suddenly notice there is a difference in logging if TomEE follows some other logging pattern than Tomcat. So aligning the TomEE default pattern with Tomcat is good in the sense of User Experience.
Nobody goes in to production with the default settings of a server. That statement is valid for the logging properties as well. So focusing on developer friendly default configuration seems the better option for me. As a developer, I used to search through the log by the class name most of the times. So I see the class name as important info in my default logging. Thanks! On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Tommy Tynjä <[email protected]> wrote: > Would definitely be worth providing a sensible default logging pattern in > TomEE. Alignment is important for readability so we should address that. > > Why would it be a problem to divert from the Tomcat default logging in > TomEE? Most users are likely to define their own log patterns anyway. > > BR, > Tommy Tynjä > > > On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected] > > > wrote: > > > Hmm, fun I exactly think the opposite: in dev you want stacktraces more > or > > less but in prod you need details to investigate as fast as possible. You > > don't care about perf since you only log error and maybe warn but nothing > > else. > > > > That said main issue is doing it differently from tomcat. > > > > I'll try to ping tomcat@ tonight to see why they changed and if we can > > enhance it together. > > > > > > > > > > Romain Manni-Bucau > > Twitter: @rmannibucau > > Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ > > LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau > > Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau > > > > > > 2014-07-24 15:18 GMT+02:00 Andy Gumbrecht <[email protected]>: > > > > > Not necessarily, I think we should pick a simple and fast format as the > > > default, something like [dd:HH:mm:ss][LEVEL] - Message. > > > Having thread names and class names is a huge overhead usually - They > > > should be dev options. > > > > > > Andy. > > > > > > > > > On 24/07/2014 07:23, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote: > > > > > >> Sure > > >> > > >> Question is not technical but "do we stay aligned on tomcat" > > >> > > >> One trade off can be to trim some parts to align column stayimg one > line > > >> logs i think > > >> Le 23 juil. 2014 23:31, "[email protected]" < > > >> [email protected]> a écrit : > > >> > > >> Looks bad. We should be able to define a pattern ? > > >>> > > >>> Sent from my HTC > > >>> > > >>> ----- Reply message ----- > > >>> From: "Romain Manni-Bucau" <[email protected]> > > >>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > >>> Subject: new tomcat logs > > >>> Date: Thu, Jul 24, 2014 00:07 > > >>> > > >>> Hi > > >>> > > >>> new tomcat logs look like: > > >>> https://gist.github.com/rmannibucau/989a38620aec394bd45d > > >>> > > >>> do we keep it as default? Then most of our logs are no more readable > :( > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Romain Manni-Bucau > > >>> Twitter: @rmannibucau > > >>> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ > > >>> LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau > > >>> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau > > >>> > > >> > > > -- > > > Andy Gumbrecht > > > > > > http://www.tomitribe.com > > > [email protected] > > > https://twitter.com/AndyGeeDe > > > > > > TomEE treibt Tomitribe! | http://tomee.apache.org > > > > > > > > >
