Same fear for me. We'll not get any Java EE 7 TCK at Apache. So waiting
only penalize the project.

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On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Jon,
>
> nothing more than the proposal "To make it clear this is a VOTE by LAZY
> consensus to use 7.0.0 as next tomee release version." = starting a [VOTE]
> Apache TomEE 7.0.0 following this vote.
>
> "What is GA" - guess you mean more Final since GA just means available and
> milestone are king of GA by definition? I think it is what the *project*
> judges stable enough. I think it is very important for us to break this
> insane dependency to Oracle we don't control and having delayed us of at
> least 2 years. This means you can see the vote as "is master stable enough
> to be released as Final and no more as milestone which supposes implicitly
> no quality guarantee?".
>
> Legally we can do Final (0.0) when we want certified or not (TomEE is an
> autonomous ASF project).
>
> If we get TCK and certified we can do a 8.0.0 if you want to "mark" it but
> that's another topic we'll cover if relevant at that point.
>
> Does it clarify the intent?
>
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> 2016-04-25 14:28 GMT+02:00 Jonathan Gallimore <jgallim...@tomitribe.com>:
>
> > I'm not sure what I'm voting for and how this relates to the other thread
> > "Next release 7.1".
> >
> > Is it both of the following?
> >
> > * No change in version numbering (i.e. continue with 7.0.0.M1, M2, M3, M4
> > etc until we get to a 7.0.0 GA)
> > * Include Tomcat 8.5 and later in the 7.0.x series with no separate fork
> > for Tomcat 8.5 support
> >
> > If it is, I'd expect the next release to be a 7.0.0.M4, with Tomcat 8.5
> > included.
> >
> > The next question is - what is GA? As we aligned with Java EE version
> > numbering, I'd expect a 7.0.0.GA to be a JEE 7 certified released, at
> > least
> > for webprofile, and I think it needs to be very clearly communicated if
> > that is not the case. Are their any legal implications of releasing a
> TomEE
> > 7.0.0 GA that is not certified?
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> rmannibu...@gmail.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi guys,
> > >
> > > seems we'll reach a consensus soon on the fact we have to use 7.0 for
> > next
> > > release so trying to make the global topic moving forward ie the next
> > tomee
> > > release version.
> > >
> > > Using milestones doesn't reflect code state and has the following
> > > disadvantages:
> > >
> > > - we have no clue yet we'll sort soon oracle discussions
> > > - it prevents tooling and cloud integration (this thread is not about
> > > discussing it is for good reasons or bad)
> > > - milestones seems to impact some user/manager minds where it can be
> more
> > > stable than some previous final releases, then also impacts us as a
> > > community since we don't reach the usage we should
> > > - we are stable since months, if we stop we can still change the
> version
> > > later if desired but today we are
> > >
> > > To make it clear this is a VOTE by LAZY consensus to use 7.0.0 as next
> > > tomee release version.
> > >
> > > [+1] yes let's do it
> > > [ 0] what are you speaking about? meh don't care
> > > [-1] no cause ${reason} is a blocker
> > >
> > > Vote is open for 72 hours.
> > >
> > > Romain Manni-Bucau
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> > >
> >
> >
> >
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