> On Apr 17, 2018, at 9:57 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> What is blocking to release tomee 8? Nothing ;)

Moving this over as it's probably a good "top level" topic to discuss.  This 
will probably come to do "do we care about certification anymore" and that will 
probably involve us asking users for their opinions.

Here's the status I'm aware of from my involvement in Jakarta EE / EE4J PMC.

  - TCKs are due to show up in the May, June timeframe.  Once they show up, we 
will be able to legally run them.  I.e. after 5 years our TCK access will 
finally be restored.

  - Jakarta EE 8 TCK will be an functionally identical copy of the Java EE 8 
TCK.  This is intentional so being Jakarta EE 8 certified can be implied to be 
Java EE 8 certified.

  - As this one will be open source, we will all be able to work on it 
together, openly without special paperwork.  We will also be able to openly 
share the results and talk about how close or far we are and do we want to 
release then or wait.

So I see three options:

 a) April - Release TomEE 8.x now with unknown compliance
 b) July - Run the Jakarta EE 8.x TCK, potentially release with known 
non-compliance and information on what isn't compliant
 c) September - Time-box closing as many issues as possible, fix what we can in 
2 months and release with known non-compliance, but far less, and information 
on what isn't compliant
 d) ?? - Release TomEE 8.x when it is Jakarta EE 8 Web Profile compliant

I don't mention the 8.0 vs 8.1 distinction because I don't think it adds 
anything to the conversation.  Whenever we do our first release it would be 
called 8.0, it's really about when we want to do that.  I think we're all on 
the same page that if we did release 8.0 now, we'd increment the version in 
some way on milestones C or D.

I won't give my preference in this email as to not pollute the options.  If you 
see an option that isn't discussed, do the same and attempt to present it 
disconnected from your preference (i.e. use different emails).

We should probably discuss for a while, capture some options we like, then loop 
in users and try to get as much feedback as possible.  Maybe a google poll.


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