Good morning :)

> On Aug 8, 2018, at 10:53 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu <cgerdo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> We can definitely vote, but would be great if we can way a day or two to
>> discuss what we'd be voting and what our status is and how to best address
>> our concerns.
>> 
> +1

I maybe jumped the gun.  I'm happy to trash the vote I put up if we feel that's 
best.  Or we let it continue and consider it informational and non-binding.

>> We all universally agree we want MP in TomEE 8 and are actively working on
>> it
>> 
> I am not sure there is an active MP work in TomEE

It's not roaring active, but config and jwt are there and passing in TomEE 8 
and 7.1. Roberto has done a good chunk of that integration work, obviously 
Jean-Louis a large part of the JWT support, Jon has indicated in the past a 
willingness to spin the release.

> My understanding of the concern is that we end up ignoring TomEE 8, which
>> is a concern I would share.
>> 
> I did not understand what you mean by ignoring TomEE 8 .Can you please a
> bit elaborate? Who ignore?

This is me attempting to understand the objection to a TomEE 7.1 and apparently 
doing a bad job of it :)

I got the impression the concern was that energy would be shifted away from 
TomEE 8 to a TomEE 7.1, i.e. TomEE 8 would suffer and be ignored as a result.  
If that's not the case, I suspect I need someone who is concerned about a 7.1 
to say more specifically the concern is.

> Perhaps the most effective vote would be to vote to require those who do
>> work on a TomEE 7.1 to also submit the same PR to TomEE 8. If a PR comes
>> into TomEE 7.1 only and that work is needed in TomEE 8, but there isn't a
>> PR, we reject it.
>> 
> -1. Different people can work on TomEE 7.1 and TomEE 8. We need to
> differentiate TomEE 7.1 from TomEE 8. TomEE 7.1 is just in there to only
> include MP1. We don't want to wait TomEE 7.1 for TomEE 8.

I'm ok with us not being that strict.  I only proposed it as a compromise to 
address concerns.  I have a growing awareness I haven't clearly understood the 
concern well enough to address it.

I'll shut my mouth for a bit and re-open my ears, hopefully something good will 
jump in. :)


-David

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