> On Feb 27, 2019, at 12:47 PM, j4fm <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On Jarkata EE cert... +1 for after 8 is released.  This conversation just
> reminded me of this thread quite some time ago now, with some views :)
> 
> Status-of-TomEE-8
> <http://tomee-openejb.979440.n4.nabble.com/Status-of-TomEE-8-td4683807.html>  

I'll note that the month names in that email are so fitting to now, that I 
forgot this was one year ago :)

I've updated the thread title to match the actual conversation.

I'm happy that today we are actively shipping releases.  I'm thrilled we have 
so many more amazing contributors.

On the Jakarta EE 8 front, current conversation in that camp is to aim for some 
sort of final release around June.  There's still a ton of legal work pending, 
including many legal agreements.  When that release is done, we (Jakarta EE) 
will attempt to include as many certified servers as we can in the list.

If we were going to release a non-Jakarta EE 8 certified TomEE 8, we should do 
it either far before or after June to avoid the most confusion.  I think doing 
it after would look particularly weak.  Before would be much better.

The major asks I see everyone gravitate towards are completed MicroProfile 
support for Plus, Plume, WebProfile and Java 11 support.

If we focused on these now and got a final out the door, every single one of us 
could turn our attention to Jakarta EE 8 and getting as many tests to pass as 
possible by June.  The world *will* want to know our status then.

In my experience, in 2-3 months of focused effort you can make major jumps in 
compliance and go from 20% - 30% range up to the 80% range. A lot of tests fail 
due to configuration and setup, then due to a key missing feature here or 
there.  Once you get up to the 85% mark you're making gains 1 or 20 tests at a 
time which nets you a percent or two.  The last 5% is brutal and can last for 
months.

By June we could be in good shape.  Not certified, but looking good.

Our unique advantage is that if you want the thrill and excitement of being 
able to *implement* Jakarta EE 8, we're the only game in town. :)  Trust me it 
is truly a thrill.

A smart option would be to clear out the current work queue (MP/Java11), get a 
final out, then focus the tip of the spear on that goal and push hard.

Thoughts?


-David

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