I think we need to clear all the MP work, Java 11 support, Security API 
implementation and push a final release with that.

We can focus on the TCK later.

> On 28 Feb 2019, at 01:04, David Blevins <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2019, at 12:47 PM, j4fm <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> On Jarkata EE cert... +1 for after 8 is released.  This conversation just
>> reminded me of this thread quite some time ago now, with some views :)
>> 
>> Status-of-TomEE-8
>> <http://tomee-openejb.979440.n4.nabble.com/Status-of-TomEE-8-td4683807.html> 
>>  
> 
> I'll note that the month names in that email are so fitting to now, that I 
> forgot this was one year ago :)
> 
> I've updated the thread title to match the actual conversation.
> 
> I'm happy that today we are actively shipping releases.  I'm thrilled we have 
> so many more amazing contributors.
> 
> On the Jakarta EE 8 front, current conversation in that camp is to aim for 
> some sort of final release around June.  There's still a ton of legal work 
> pending, including many legal agreements.  When that release is done, we 
> (Jakarta EE) will attempt to include as many certified servers as we can in 
> the list.
> 
> If we were going to release a non-Jakarta EE 8 certified TomEE 8, we should 
> do it either far before or after June to avoid the most confusion.  I think 
> doing it after would look particularly weak.  Before would be much better.
> 
> The major asks I see everyone gravitate towards are completed MicroProfile 
> support for Plus, Plume, WebProfile and Java 11 support.
> 
> If we focused on these now and got a final out the door, every single one of 
> us could turn our attention to Jakarta EE 8 and getting as many tests to pass 
> as possible by June.  The world *will* want to know our status then.
> 
> In my experience, in 2-3 months of focused effort you can make major jumps in 
> compliance and go from 20% - 30% range up to the 80% range. A lot of tests 
> fail due to configuration and setup, then due to a key missing feature here 
> or there.  Once you get up to the 85% mark you're making gains 1 or 20 tests 
> at a time which nets you a percent or two.  The last 5% is brutal and can 
> last for months.
> 
> By June we could be in good shape.  Not certified, but looking good.
> 
> Our unique advantage is that if you want the thrill and excitement of being 
> able to *implement* Jakarta EE 8, we're the only game in town. :)  Trust me 
> it is truly a thrill.
> 
> A smart option would be to clear out the current work queue (MP/Java11), get 
> a final out, then focus the tip of the spear on that goal and push hard.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> 
> -David
> 

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