@Ryan:

“edge.” Limits our ability to use wildcard ssl certs for DNS routed
services for similar customer services which can save a lot of time, cost,
and hassle.

Can you explain more?  I don't see the need for wildcard certs when Traffic
Router returns only one FQDN for a DNS routed Deliveryservice?  If you are
talking about a "future feature" then we should worry about that then.

On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 8:09 AM, Durfey, Ryan <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Random thought on this…
>
> “edge.” Limits our ability to use wildcard ssl certs for DNS routed
> services for similar customer services which can save a lot of time, cost,
> and hassle.
> “tr.” Makes sense for HTTP 302 routed services because you can use
> wildcard certs for the server hostname that replaces the “tr.” in the
> domain.  Is it worth considering “tr.” for http routed and nothing for DNS
> routed ie. “xml-id.cdn_domain”?
>
> Ryan Durfey    M | 303-524-5099
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>
> From: Jan van Doorn <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: "[email protected]" <
> [email protected]>
> Date: Friday, August 4, 2017 at 8:04 AM
> To: "[email protected]" <
> [email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Adding support for per-DeliveryService routing names
>
> Agree with Dave on
>
> [*DN] we should default the database column to "edge" for DNS and "tr" for*
> *http.  Then we don't have to do the null check.*
>
> If we do that, we can make the columns mandatory, and it makes sense
> they're not in the DS_PROFILE. Also makes it so we don't have to have a CDN
> wide setting. (and Rawlin, I think you mean to say DS_PROFILE rather than
> TR_PROFILE type to add the param to if we chose to do that?? Or was it the
> default that goes into TR_PROFILE and the override into DS_PROFILE?).
> In any case - if we make the columns NOT NULL and default them to "tr" and
> "edge", I'm +1 on columns in the deliveryservice table.
>
> Cheers,
> JvD
>
> On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 7:12 AM Eric Friedrich (efriedri) <
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> wrote:
>
> Hey Rawlin-
>    Zhilin has also been working on a very similar feature which was
> proposed on this mailer last month:
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/51d7ed1ae65a3697c39edd00236e6f
> 3897da37ef5b24ac452a17cabb@%3Cdev.trafficcontrol.apache.org%3E
> <
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/51d7ed1ae65a3697c39edd00236e6f
> 3897da37ef5b24ac452a17cabb@
> <dev.trafficcontrol.apache.org>>
>
> Can you please work him to ensure we don’t duplicate work and that if both
> solutions are needed they will work together?
>
> On Aug 3, 2017, at 3:57 PM, Peters, Rawlin <[email protected]<
> mailto:[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]%3e>>
> wrote:
>
> Sorry, Outlook converted my numbered list poorly. I’ve corrected the
> numbering (items 1-3) below.
>
> On 8/3/17, 1:52 PM, "Peters, Rawlin" <[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]><mailto:
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>
>     Hello All,
>
>     I’ve been working on adding support for configurable per-CDN and
> per-DeliveryService routing names [1] (what are currently
> hardcoded/defaulted to ‘edge’ and ‘tr’ for DNS and HTTP Delivery Services,
> respectively), and I have a few things to propose.
>
>
>       1.  Add a column to the CDN table for the DNS and HTTP routing names.
>
>
>
>     I’ve currently been working off the assumption that per-CDN routing
> names would be configurable by adding ‘http.routing.name’ and ‘
> dns.routing.name’ parameters to a profile of type TR_PROFILE using the
> ‘CRConfig.json’ config file. To me this seems like bad UX because the user
> has to click through multiple steps and fill in multiple fields in the UI
> just to change the CDN’s routing names. It also requires joining a few
> different tables in the DB just to find the parameters per-CDN. For that
> reason, I think it would be better if ‘dns_routing_name’ and
> ‘http_routing_name’ were added as columns of the ‘cdn’ table, and changing
> them via the UI would follow the same process as choosing the CDN’s domain
> name. Because the routing names would be the CDN-wide defaults, the ‘Edit
> CDN’ window feels like the most natural place to put it.
>
>
>       2.  Values for per-DeliveryService routing names could live in one of
> a couple different areas:
>          *   New columns in the delivery_service table
>          *   Parameters in a DS Profile
>
>     As the developer, my vote would be for Option A because it seems like
> it would lead to cleaner code in Traffic Ops because the routing names
> would be readily-available when handling a DeliveryService. You wouldn’t
> have to also fetch its profile then dig through it to find the routing
> names. A downside could be that adding columns to an already-overcrowded
> table isn’t ideal.
>
>     Option B is less appealing to me but might have some advantages such as
> keeping the number of columns down in the DeliveryService table. However,
> DS Profiles currently seem to be geared more towards the Multi-site Origin
> feature in generating specific ATS configuration (parent.config) and less
> towards a “junk drawer for optional config”. As the routing names would
> affect the entire DS and multiple config files, it doesn’t seem right to
> have it as a profile parameter using ‘CRConfig.json’ as the config file. I
> wasn’t around when DS Profiles were introduced, so if you are more familiar
> with their purpose/origin and think this is a good fit for them, I’d like
> to hear your advice.
>
>
>       3.  If per-DeliveryService routing names are not set explicitly for a
> DS (i.e. the column is null), then the DS will use the per-CDN routing
> names as a default. If the per-CDN routing names are unset, they will
> default to the current values of ‘edge’ and ‘tr’. So the lookup hierarchy
> would be DS.routing_names -> CDN.routing_names -> default ‘edge/tr’.
>
>     I’d like to know what you think of these proposals, and any
> advice/feedback is welcome.
>
>     Best regards,
>     Rawlin
>
>     [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TC-287
>
>
>
>
>
>

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