Yeah, I just rethought that.

I was envisioning   http://servicename.customername.cdn_domain/  where we could 
get a cert for “*.customername.cdn_domain/” for multiple customer services.

However, we currently have to use the format 
http://servicename-cusotmername.cdn_domain/ where a wildcard cert would not be 
applicable.

Apologies for the confusion.


Ryan Durfey    M | 303-524-5099
CDN Support (24x7): 866-405-2993 or 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>


From: David Neuman <[email protected]>
Reply-To: "[email protected]" 
<[email protected]>
Date: Friday, August 4, 2017 at 8:40 AM
To: "[email protected]" 
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Adding support for per-DeliveryService routing names

@Ryan:

“edge.” Limits our ability to use wildcard ssl certs for DNS routed
services for similar customer services which can save a lot of time, cost,
and hassle.

Can you explain more?  I don't see the need for wildcard certs when Traffic
Router returns only one FQDN for a DNS routed Deliveryservice?  If you are
talking about a "future feature" then we should worry about that then.

On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 8:09 AM, Durfey, Ryan 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:

Random thought on this…

“edge.” Limits our ability to use wildcard ssl certs for DNS routed
services for similar customer services which can save a lot of time, cost,
and hassle.
“tr.” Makes sense for HTTP 302 routed services because you can use
wildcard certs for the server hostname that replaces the “tr.” in the
domain.  Is it worth considering “tr.” for http routed and nothing for DNS
routed ie. “xml-id.cdn_domain”?

Ryan Durfey    M | 303-524-5099
CDN Support (24x7): 866-405-2993 or 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>


From: Jan van Doorn <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Reply-To: 
"[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>"
 <
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Friday, August 4, 2017 at 8:04 AM
To: 
"[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>"
 <
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: Adding support for per-DeliveryService routing names

Agree with Dave on

[*DN] we should default the database column to "edge" for DNS and "tr" for*
*http.  Then we don't have to do the null check.*

If we do that, we can make the columns mandatory, and it makes sense
they're not in the DS_PROFILE. Also makes it so we don't have to have a CDN
wide setting. (and Rawlin, I think you mean to say DS_PROFILE rather than
TR_PROFILE type to add the param to if we chose to do that?? Or was it the
default that goes into TR_PROFILE and the override into DS_PROFILE?).
In any case - if we make the columns NOT NULL and default them to "tr" and
"edge", I'm +1 on columns in the deliveryservice table.

Cheers,
JvD

On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 7:12 AM Eric Friedrich (efriedri) <
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]%3e>>
wrote:

Hey Rawlin-
    Zhilin has also been working on a very similar feature which was
proposed on this mailer last month:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/51d7ed1ae65a3697c39edd00236e6f
3897da37ef5b24ac452a17cabb@%3Cdev.trafficcontrol.apache.org%3E<mailto:3897da37ef5b24ac452a17cabb@%3Cdev.trafficcontrol.apache.org%3E>
<
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/51d7ed1ae65a3697c39edd00236e6f
3897da37ef5b24ac452a17cabb@
<dev.trafficcontrol.apache.org>>

Can you please work him to ensure we don’t duplicate work and that if both
solutions are needed they will work together?

On Aug 3, 2017, at 3:57 PM, Peters, Rawlin 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><
mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]%3e><mailto:[email protected]%3e%3cmailto:[email protected]%3e%3e>>
wrote:

Sorry, Outlook converted my numbered list poorly. I’ve corrected the
numbering (items 1-3) below.

On 8/3/17, 1:52 PM, "Peters, Rawlin" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>><mailto:
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>><mailto:[email protected]%3e%3e>>
 wrote:

     Hello All,

     I’ve been working on adding support for configurable per-CDN and
per-DeliveryService routing names [1] (what are currently
hardcoded/defaulted to ‘edge’ and ‘tr’ for DNS and HTTP Delivery Services,
respectively), and I have a few things to propose.


       1.  Add a column to the CDN table for the DNS and HTTP routing names.



     I’ve currently been working off the assumption that per-CDN routing
names would be configurable by adding ‘http.routing.name’ and ‘
dns.routing.name’ parameters to a profile of type TR_PROFILE using the
‘CRConfig.json’ config file. To me this seems like bad UX because the user
has to click through multiple steps and fill in multiple fields in the UI
just to change the CDN’s routing names. It also requires joining a few
different tables in the DB just to find the parameters per-CDN. For that
reason, I think it would be better if ‘dns_routing_name’ and
‘http_routing_name’ were added as columns of the ‘cdn’ table, and changing
them via the UI would follow the same process as choosing the CDN’s domain
name. Because the routing names would be the CDN-wide defaults, the ‘Edit
CDN’ window feels like the most natural place to put it.


       2.  Values for per-DeliveryService routing names could live in one of
a couple different areas:
          *   New columns in the delivery_service table
          *   Parameters in a DS Profile

     As the developer, my vote would be for Option A because it seems like
it would lead to cleaner code in Traffic Ops because the routing names
would be readily-available when handling a DeliveryService. You wouldn’t
have to also fetch its profile then dig through it to find the routing
names. A downside could be that adding columns to an already-overcrowded
table isn’t ideal.

     Option B is less appealing to me but might have some advantages such as
keeping the number of columns down in the DeliveryService table. However,
DS Profiles currently seem to be geared more towards the Multi-site Origin
feature in generating specific ATS configuration (parent.config) and less
towards a “junk drawer for optional config”. As the routing names would
affect the entire DS and multiple config files, it doesn’t seem right to
have it as a profile parameter using ‘CRConfig.json’ as the config file. I
wasn’t around when DS Profiles were introduced, so if you are more familiar
with their purpose/origin and think this is a good fit for them, I’d like
to hear your advice.


       3.  If per-DeliveryService routing names are not set explicitly for a
DS (i.e. the column is null), then the DS will use the per-CDN routing
names as a default. If the per-CDN routing names are unset, they will
default to the current values of ‘edge’ and ‘tr’. So the lookup hierarchy
would be DS.routing_names -> CDN.routing_names -> default ‘edge/tr’.

     I’d like to know what you think of these proposals, and any
advice/feedback is welcome.

     Best regards,
     Rawlin

     [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TC-287







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