Hi Netroby,  hufeng1987, and all:

The TubeMQ project has existed and been running for many years before it
was open sourced. The name is even more earthy, called "tube" (pronounced
similar to Turtle in Chinese). What I want to say is that the name is
really important, but it is not the most important decision factor.

I personally think that the key to software is to really help everyone, and
to make everyone feel that in a certain aspect or in certain aspects, it is
unique compared to other similar products, such as cost saving, worry-free,
or higher performance. If TubeMQ really helps you in some aspects, the best
way is to continue to apply and improve it, and if you have the opportunity
to contribute to it, make it more powerful and more useful.

At the same time, after the name change, people in need can still retrieve
its existence through "TubeMQ" and find this email to know what name it
changed to and where it is now. It will not affect the new classmates, at
the same time, you can find more good stuff.

In the end, I think a poem written by Tashiram Dodo(扎西拉姆·多多), "The Silence
of Banzaguru Baima"(《班扎古鲁白玛的沉默》) can better express this state:

It doesn't matter if you see me or not.
I am standing right there with no sorrow or delight.

It doesn't matter if you miss me or not.
The feeling is right there and it isn't going anywhere.

It doesn't matter if you love me or not.
Love is right there and it isn't going to change.

It doesn't matter if you are with me or not.
My hand is in your hand and I won't let go.

Come to my arms.
Or let me live in your heart.

Silence Love.
Calmness Joy.


Thank you all.

Netroby <[email protected]> 于2020年12月18日周五 上午10:28写道:

> And did you regret letting tubemq be born?
>
> Is it just too small a part of your ecosystem?  oh, I am sorry to hear it.
>
> Anyway, if you really want to do it, Just do it.
> But how can you know your strength? Would you change your mind next time?
>
>
>
>
>
> Appreciate your time.
> ----------------------------
> Netroby
>
> Netroby <[email protected]> 于2020年12月18日周五 上午10:24写道:
> >
> > I guess they (core developers)lost their mission (or lost mind).
> >
> > You can just made tubemq as a sub module of a huge project.
> >
> > It's not the business .
> >
> > Kafka is another mq.
> >
> > It's also an apache project. did you see they say. let's make a big
> > project, make kafka as a sub project?
> >
> >
> >
> > Appreciate your time.
> > ----------------------------
> > Netroby
> >
> > 赵磊 <[email protected]> 于2020年12月18日周五 上午10:04写道:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It was really such a big surprise. In recent months, i had made lots
> of testing on tubemq and decide to use it in my solution.
> > >
> > > but if the project's goals and  name changed ,can i use tubemq
> independently? if so,will it take lots of workload?
> > >
> > > if the change is imperative  when can we see the  new architecture?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 2020-12-17 20:17:58, "人间不值得" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >It’s wired, if you want push another area, just named a new project,
> do you know hdfs and Hadoop?
> > > >
> > > >Force change project name and project main goals very wired.
> > > >Let tubemq do one job please. It’s good and enough.
> > > >
> > > >发自我的iPad
> > > >
> > > >> 在 2020年12月14日,下午7:08,Goson zhang <[email protected]> 写道:
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi, Dev
> > > >>
> > > >> I'd like to raise a discussion about adjusting the project goals and
> > > >> project name
> > > >>
> > > >> As the initiator of the project, after TubeMQ joined the Apache
> community,
> > > >> we have been improving the features and functions in accordance
> with the
> > > >> needs of the project, also, we have been promoting the evolution of
> the
> > > >> project in the direction of "one-stop data access", providing
> technical
> > > >> capabilities such as data collection,  transmission, sorting, and
> landing
> > > >> which covers big data scenario completely. For instance, we have
> recently
> > > >> developed a module called tubemq-manager for cross-cluster
> management,
> > > >> other modules such as agent and sorting will be added sooner in the
> future.
> > > >> As TubeMq matures and strengthens, we found that it's not just a
> single MQ
> > > >> service, but also a one-stop data access solution that covers the
> entire
> > > >> data reporting service. If we continue to retain the suffix "mq" in
> the
> > > >> project name, it may confuse our users or even those who follow up
> on our
> > > >> project.
> > > >>
> > > >> We hope to present different project goals by modifying the project
> name.
> > > >> We will retain and continue to develop the TubeMQ module to provide
> > > >> messaging middleware service capabilities. At the same time, we
> will make
> > > >> some capabilities such as data collection and data sorting open
> source,
> > > >> the overall services in data reporting which provides people with
> all the
> > > >> advantages in this field are also in our open-source plan. And of
> course,
> > > >> such adjustment would have impact on everyone, after the project is
> > > >> renamed, people need to include the main name of the new project in
> the
> > > >> existing TubeMQ import path, from the previous "import
> > > >> org.apache.tubemq.xxx" to "import org.apache.yyyyy.tubemq.xxx", but
> this
> > > >> adjustment will enable us to provide them with more integrated
> components
> > > >> on the data reporting service.
> > > >>
> > > >> Regarding the change of  project goal && project name, we PPMCs have
> > > >> conducted many offline and online discussions, we also consulted
> project
> > > >> mentors to understand that:
> > > >> 1. If the project must be renamed, do it as soon as possible, it
> will have
> > > >> less impact on everyone ;
> > > >> 2. There is one and only one chance to change the name before the
> project
> > > >> incubation graduation;
> > > >> 3. Before changing the name, we must inform everyone in the
> community and
> > > >> listen to the opinions and suggestions.
> > > >>
> > > >> Therefore, we send this email to discuss the adjustment of goal and
> name,
> > > >> and to obtain more opinions and suggestions towards it.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks!
> > > >>
> > > >> TubeMQ PPMCs
>

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