On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 11:56 AM, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 1:49 AM, Kevan Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >>> >>>> I noticed that there's a Tuscany IRC channel referenced on the Tuscany >>>> web site -- http://tuscany.apache.org/getting-involved.html. I joined >>>> it, but doesn't look like it's being used by the community. FYI, while I >>>> was >>>> there somebody else joined the channel and asked if this was a place to >>>> talk >>>> with Tuscany developers... >>>> >>>> Different Apache communities have different policies regarding IRC >>>> channels. So, don't know if you've explicitly decided not to use IRC as a >>>> communication mechanism, or if it's just fallen into disuse. Either way, >>>> suggest the references be deleted from the web site or start using the irc >>>> channel... ;-) >>>> >>>> Personally, I like IRC. We use it in the Geronimo community. I think it >>>> adds a more human dimension to community interactions. It's also can be a >>>> more convenient (and immediate) form of communication. It's a lightweight >>>> means for resolving simple problems; tapping somebody on the shoulder, if >>>> they broke the build; debating politics; or just saying hello. You do need >>>> to be careful about protracted design discussions or basing decisions >>>> solely >>>> based on IRC conversations. If you find you've discussed a problem to too >>>> great a detail, summarize the conversation and post to the dev list. Just >>>> my >>>> 2 cents... >>>> >>>> --kevan >>>> >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> We used to use it a lot for the kind of immediate communication you talk >>> about but for some reason it's use has dwindled. I don't think that an >>> explicit decision was take to stop using it. I too am a fan of IRC in terms >>> of providing a human face to the Tuscany community. Am logged back in now! >>> >>> Simon >>> >> >> I've only seen myself and Kevan on the #tuscany channel recently. Does the >> lack of comment here and lack of people on the channel mean they think it's >> a bad idea? >> >> Simon >> > > In the past IRC has been used on several of the Apache projects i've used, > for random chatter and also scheduled get togethers, and we did used to do > both of those in Tuscany. From what i recall the reason we stopped in > Tuscany was an increasing dislike of IRC by the Incubator folks and it > started to look like some would consider using IRC a mark against Tuscanys > graduation so we stopped. > > I'm in two minds about it. I do think using IRC can easily lead to > conversations that others not present would be interested in and posting a > summary or chat log to the mailing list doesn't really compensate for that. > > ...ant > > > That's a fair point. I think there is certainly the risk of exchanging ideas/thoughts on IRC that should be exchanged on the mail list. It's the responsibility of those taking part to police that. Simon
