+1 to take webapp into consideration when we define the SCA domain/node story. 
I view the milestone releases as stations for a moving train and the features 
only go on board when they are ready. We should try to avoid rushing to bring 
up something based on the fragile foundation before getting the story straight.

Thanks,
Raymond



From: Simon Laws 
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 10:57 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [SCA 2.0] A milestone release based on the 2.0 code base





On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Luciano Resende <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  I'm a little worried that we would try to attack multiple issues and
  don't give the necessary attention to the core in this first milestone
  release. I was considering ws binding already somewhat a stretch, and
  maybe we should even revisit that. I think another option would be to
  get milestones releases much more frequent then usual, and agree on a
  roadmap where we would incrementally address these other areas ?

  BTW, for a release time frame idea, I was thinking on starting
  preparing this release very early in January.

  Thoughts ?


  On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  >
  >
  > On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 4:18 PM, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  >>
  >>
  >> On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Raymond Feng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  >>>
  >>> +1 to have a milestone release for 2.0 (such as 2.0M1) in January. I
  >>> envision the following features to be supported:
  >>>
  >>> 1) OSGi-enabled core
  >>> 2) implementation.java
  >>> 3) binding.ws
  >>> 4) A simple/consitent SCA domain story
  >>> 5) samples and itests working with both JSE and Equinox
  >>>
  >>
  >> I'd like to include the webapp runtime here as well.
  >>
  >>    ...ant
  >>
  >>
  > I think we should look at webapp now also. It's been an awkward bedfellow of
  > the domain for a while and I'd like to know how we think that it should
  > work. It maybe that we don't think simple webapps should take part in the
  > domain but it would be good to air the issue.
  >
  > Simon
  >




  --
  Luciano Resende
  Apache Tuscany, Apache PhotArk
  http://people.apache.org/~lresende
  http://lresende.blogspot.com/


I agree that things will be a stretch to get into the various milestones so we 
either adjust the milestones or slip things out. We need to use our judgement 
and be flexible. Given the job of getting a good story in the domain we need to 
at least discuss how we think webapp should work. Then we can decide whether 
the implementation is ready for the first release or whether it slips into a 
later release. I'm all for the increments and for some things we need to think 
ahead a little. 

Simon

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