On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Simon Laws <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 8:27 AM, ant elder (JIRA)
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Aggregate JARs don't work with Maven
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>>                 Key: TUSCANY-3721
>>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-3721
>>             Project: Tuscany
>>          Issue Type: Bug
>>            Reporter: ant elder
>>             Fix For: Java-SCA-2.0-Beta1
>>
>>
>> The new aggregate JARs don't work with Maven because the shade plugin isn't 
>> configured to promote transitive dependencies which that means all the 
>> individual module jars are still included as transitive dependencies and 
>> added to the classpath. Updating the shade config to promote transitive 
>> dependencies also doesn't work as the shade plugin doesn't work with pom 
>> type dependencies.
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> I've yet to try this out and really understand what the issue is here
> so my next comment may be rubbish but....
>
> I wonder whether this really matters. We have other poms that describe
> the contents of aggregate jars so do we need the user to be able to
> depend on the aggregated jar itself from Maven?
>

I'd like to fix it as i prefer the aggregate jars to the pom type
approach. If they are fixed then that question could be flipped around
to be: if we have the aggregate jars do users really need to use the
pom type dependencies?

To put this in (my) perspective look at whats common practice in other
projects. I can point at lots of projects that aggregate small modules
into easier to manage and use aggregate jars. On the other hand i
don't know of a single other project in the world that you use with a
pom type dependency. Take the Tuscany build as an example - it uses
zillions of dependencies but not a single one is a pom type
dependency. What ever the pros and cons the pom type approach is much
less common, and that makes sense to me as fewer jars and dependencies
is simpler.

I think its good to try to have Tuscany work in as normal a way as
possible because that makes it easier for people getting started with
Tuscany. This is why i keep on trying have things be "normal" in
Tuscany - the Maven build to use the standard build commands, the IDE
setup to use standard IDE set up, the Tuscany APIs to match what the
SCA specs describe, etc, the aggregate base jar is just more of that.
Fine if people also want to experiment with other approaches too but i
think we should strive have the more commonly understood approaches
work as well where possible.

   ...ant

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