The accessibility list belongs to the ui project: http://ui.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectMailingListList
More information about accessibility related things can be found on http://www.openoffice.org/access/ Malte. Kestrell wrote: > Could you post the full info on how to subscribe to the OpenOffice > accessibility list? > > Thanks. > > Kestrell > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Malte Timmermann <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > *To:* dev@ui.openoffice.org <mailto:dev@ui.openoffice.org> > *Cc:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2006 2:12 AM > *Subject:* Re: [ui-dev] JAWS 7.0 and OpenOffice 2.0 > > Everett, > > thanks for your statement about self voicing apps, absolutely true. > > To your problem: We will do some more investigations. > > Malte. > > PS: Did you subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> yet? > > > Everett Zufelt wrote: > > On the surface putting a reader in the program seems like a god idea. > > are some reasons that it may not work well: > > > > a) Assistive Technology (AT) companies have spent much time and money > > making their products work, for the most part, well. A partial > > re-invention of the wheel would be required. > > b) Why reinvent a wheel if there already is one. > > c) Most visually impaired and blind users who currently own > > screen-readers are comfortable with how they work and would have to > > learn the nuances of a new system (keystrokes etc.). > > d) Why bother software developers who are trying to make a good > product > > with having to incorporate scren-reading abilities? > > > > I have also heard that MS is incorporating voce to text and text to > > speach in Vista. No telling, however, how well they will work. > > > > Everett > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* bogus_01 <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > *To:* dev@ui.openoffice.org <mailto:dev@ui.openoffice.org> > <mailto:dev@ui.openoffice.org> > > *Sent:* Saturday, February 25, 2006 10:54 AM > > *Subject:* Re: [ui-dev] JAWS 7.0 and OpenOffice 2.0 > > > > Why not put a reader in the program? It would help solve the > > accessiblility issue and open the program up to people who are > > visually impaired and solve the problem. > > > > I've heard rumors that MicroSoft is considering that in their > Vista. > > > > Stu > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Everett Zufelt <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > *To:* dev@ui.openoffice.org <mailto:dev@ui.openoffice.org> > <mailto:dev@ui.openoffice.org> > > *Sent:* Saturday, February 25, 2006 7:18 AM > > *Subject:* [ui-dev] JAWS 7.0 and OpenOffice 2.0 > > > > Good morning, > > > > I have posted this bug with OpenOffice's accessibility in the > > past and was refered (as a suggestion) to Freedom Scientific, > > the developer of the JAWS screen reader. I spoke with them, > > they were of little help, referring me to Sun. Since then I > > have been doing some thinking and believe that what I am going > > to describe below is not a JAWS problem. I do not know if the > > problem lies in the OpenOffice code, or in the JAVA > > Accessibility API. > > > > When I have a document open in OpenOffice Writer, and I > use the > > u/d arrow keys to move from line to line, lines after a hard > > return are only spoke if visited a second time. This is a > > little hard to explain, perhaps an example > > > > Example: > > Dear sir, > > > > This is my letter to you as an example, Hopefully this line is > > long enough to wrap to the next line so that it works as an > > example. If not, hopefully everyone can use their > > imaginiation. Goodbye. > > > > Sincerely, > > xxx > > > > In the above example, if I were starting at the top of the > > document "Dear" and using the down arrow to read by line, the > > first line of the message body "This my letter..." would > only be > > read if I went down to the second line in the paragraph > and then > > pressed the up arrow to go back to the first line. This is a > > little annoying but I can work around it with paragraphs. > > However, the same would hold true for the "Sincerely" > > line. However, in this case, there is not second line in the > > paragraph to move back up from, therefor, JAWS will not > read the > > text at all. That is, if a paragraph of text fits nicely onto > > one line I can not read it once it is written. What I hear > > instead of the text I am expecting is "blank". Pretty much > > making OpenOffice Writer useless to a blind user of JAWS. > > > > Now, like I said, I am not sure where the problem lies, but > > expect it is somewhere in the OpenOffice code or the Java > > Accessibility API, though, I do not rule out Freedom > > Scientific. This is a pretty major issue, as there is > really no > > reason to incorporate the JAVA access technology if if the > > application remains, for all intents and purposes, unusable. > > > > I don't mean to complain about the product, only to emphasize > > what really needs to be addressed to make it truely > accessible. > > > > Thank you for your continued assistance, > > Everett > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]