First, I am not a lawyer. These are just my thoughts about how things work at Apache.
What happens is not the "transfer of rights", but rather instead, holders of IP grant a license to the ASF that includes permissions for the ASF to distribute and to sublicense others to do the same. See the text of the software grant ( http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt ), in the first "grant" # 1 a). -Marshall On 6/17/2011 7:40 AM, Richard Eckart de Castilho wrote: > I ask because I always assumed that the ASF grants redistribution rights to > all artifacts to everybody. So if the distribution rights are granted to the > ASF, but not to the general public, the models might be redistributed through > the UIMA website, but if I wanted to include them in a distribution, I would > require an explicit permission from the University of Nantes. If that > interpretation is correct, then I would be worried about my understanding and > handling of the ASL. > > So is it correct to assume that if the distribution rights are transferred > the ASF, that also the right to grant distribution rights is transferred to > the ASF and that the ASF in turn grants distribution rights to the general > public? > > Best, > > Richard > > Am 17.06.2011 um 13:08 schrieb Tommaso Teofili: > >> Hello Richard, >> I was asking Nicolas about this just because I wanted to be sure we set >> right the copyright holder, see also Jörn's questions: >> >> 2011/5/31 Jörn Kottmann <[email protected]> >> >>> And even when we follow your description to retrain the models, do we >>> then have the right to publish it under AL 2.0 or do we need to go through >>> IP clearance >>> again, because the AL 2.0 publishing is an agreement between you and the >>> corpus copyright holder? >>> >>> I think having an agreement which grants rights to the ASF to publish the >>> models trained on the >>> data under AL 2.0 is what we need, and it would also be nice if every >>> committer in the team could >>> get access to the data. >> >> so the copyright holder signing a SGA transfers distribution rights to ASF. >> Jukka and others, please correct me if I am wrong. >> Regards, >> Tommaso >> >> 2011/6/17 Richard Eckart de Castilho <[email protected] >>> Hello Tommaso, >>> >>> as an interested bystander I am would like to know more about the IP and >>> distribution rights. >>> >>> Is it not the case that full copyright and distribution rights have to be >>> transferred to the Apache Foundation? >>> What is the effect of having the University of Nantes as the distribution >>> rights holder? >>> Doesn't the Apache License clearly state that the licensed item are freely >>> distributable? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Richard >>> >>> Am 17.06.2011 um 12:40 schrieb Tommaso Teofili: >>> >>>> Hello Nicolas, all, >>>> I've updated your patch with some more details, can you review it and see >>> if >>>> it sounds good to you? >>>> In particular I've set the 'University of Nantes' as holder of >>> distribution >>>> rights, can you confirm that is correct? >>>> If any other UIMA PMC member would like to review it too that'd be >>> welcome >>>> :) >>>> After this has been fixed I plan to call a vote here to accept this IP >>>> Clearance. >>>> Regards, >>>> Tommaso >>>> >>> -- >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Richard Eckart de Castilho >>> Technical Lead >>> Ubiquitous Knowledge Processing Lab >>> FB 20 Computer Science Department >>> Technische Universität Darmstadt >>> Hochschulstr. 10, D-64289 Darmstadt, Germany >>> phone [+49] (0)6151 16-7477, fax -5455, room S2/02/B117 >>> [email protected] >>> www.ukp.tu-darmstadt.de >>> Web Research at TU Darmstadt (WeRC) www.werc.tu-darmstadt.de >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > Richard Eckart de Castilho >
