https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/May2022#how-has-the-community-developed-since-the-last-report-36
 
<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/May2022#how-has-the-community-developed-since-the-last-report-36>

The same topic two times with different answers :)





> On 4. May 2022, at 14:40, Bertty Contreras <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks,
> 
> I just update the report of may in the cwiki of apache[1] please check it
> and let me know if you have any comment.
> 
> Best regards,
> Bertty
> 
> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/May2022#wayang
> 
> On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 3:50 PM Bertty Contreras <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Folks,
>> 
>> I add the comment of Cris, let me know if something is missing or do you
>> want change something
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Bertty
>> Wayang
>> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#wayang>
>> 
>> Wayang is a cross-platform data processing system that aims at decoupling
>> the business logic of data analytics applications from concrete data
>> processing platforms, such as Apache Flink or Apache Spark. Hence, it tames
>> the complexity that arises from the "Cambrian explosion" of novel data
>> processing platforms that we currently witness.
>> 
>> Wayang has been incubating since 2020-12-16.
>> Three most important unfinished issues to address before graduating:
>> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#three-most-important-unfinished-issues-to-address-before-graduating-8>
>> 
>>   1. Simplifying and documenting the release process
>>   2. Had a significant growth (stars/forks at GitHub), but we want to
>>   gain popularity further and grow the community.
>> 
>> Are there any issues that the IPMC or ASF Board need to be aware of?
>> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#are-there-any-issues-that-the-ipmc-or-asf-board-need-to-be-aware-of->
>> 
>> When establishing whether "Apache Wayang" was a proper name, it was
>> rejected because the 'wayang' word was wrong translated by Google
>> Translator as 'puppet' but instead of that means 'Imagination' or 'shadow'.
>> Because of the confusion and to avoid future problems, the process is under
>> "ASF's trademark counsel". The process started in January, and until these
>> days, the community did not get any status updates.
>> How has the community developed since the last report?
>> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#how-has-the-community-developed-since-the-last-report-9>
>> 
>> The community growth is significant (according to Github); during the last
>> month, the main repository had been cloned at least one time per day from a
>> unique IP, and two persons outside of the committer registered had been
>> contributing to the code.
>> How has the project developed since the last report?
>> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#how-has-the-project-developed-since-the-last-report-9>
>> 
>> The community had been focused on increasing the scope of the tests and
>> developing the Python API to help the data scientist area that it is one of
>> the user focus.
>> How would you assess the podling's maturity?
>> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#how-would-you-assess-the-podlings-maturity-9>
>> 
>> Please feel free to add your own commentary.
>> 
>>   -  Initial setup
>>   -  Working towards first release
>>   -  Community building
>>   -  Nearing graduation
>>   -  Other:
>> 
>> Technology-wise, the Podling is a productive state, and it is growing
>> adoption in the market, especially from companies with large data
>> processing pipelines.
>> Date of last release:
>> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#date-of-last-release->
>> 
>> December 13, 2021
>> When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
>> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#when-were-the-last-committers-or-ppmc-members-elected-9>
>> 
>> 2022-01-18 : Calvin Kirs (As committer, but currently is under the process
>> of becoming PPMC)
>> Have your mentors been helpful and responsive?
>> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#have-your-mentors-been-helpful-and-responsive-9>
>> 
>> Yes, the mentors are very responsive and helpful, nevertheless, two of
>> them have prolonged inactivity
>> Is the PPMC managing the podling's brand / trademarks?
>> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#is-the-ppmc-managing-the-podlings-brand--trademarks-9>
>> 
>> The name is under the process of "ASF's trademark counsel."
>> 
>> On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 3:39 PM Bertty Contreras <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thank @Cris I will take in consideration your input and I will added to
>>> the draft
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 1:28 PM Alexander Alten-Lorenz <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Great input, Chris! Thanks :)
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2. May 2022, at 12:56, Christofer Dutz <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Bertty,
>>>>> 
>>>>> In general the growth of the community will remain a goal, even after
>>>> graduation. Also it's nice if every PPMC could release Wayang, however I
>>>> doubt this goal is achieved for any Apache project ;-) ... I think with
>>>> Apache PLC4X probably 3 or 4 people would be able to do so.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would therefore mention:
>>>>> - Simplifying and documenting the release process
>>>>> - Growing the community
>>>>> As stuff the project needs to work on for graduation.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regarding the growth of the community: Usually projects measure the
>>>> number of contributors ... unfortunately forks and clones don't help much,
>>>> even if it's an indicator. Cloning once per day could probably also be a CI
>>>> build running somewhere on a docker-based system.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Usually if someone is voted in, the names are mentioned ... you're
>>>> just mentioning a "Committer" ... I would suggest to write the name
>>>> together with the information that he was invited as committer.
>>>>> 
>>>>> In the maturity, I would opt for selecting "Community building".
>>>> Apache generally doesn't really care if we ship stuff that works ... as
>>>> long as the community behind the project works. We don't have the
>>>> expectation to ship perfect software, just to be able to react to problems,
>>>> especially if they are security-relevant. So, I would omit that text part
>>>> in the maturity assessment.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And last not least, you are currently voting on removing 2 of the 4
>>>> mentors. This is an indicator that not all of us mentors are doing what the
>>>> podling is expecting of them. This definitely should be mentioned in your
>>>> report.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chris
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Bertty Contreras <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Sonntag, 1. Mai 2022 23:54
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: [Report][Draft] May
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is the draft for the report of may is below, please read
>>>> carefully and let me know what you think and your thoughts.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The deadline is until 3 of may because we need to upload it until may
>>>> 4 (be with you!)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Bertty
>>>>> Wayang
>>>>> <
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#wayang
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Wayang is a cross-platform data processing system that aims at
>>>> decoupling the business logic of data analytics applications from concrete
>>>> data processing platforms, such as Apache Flink or Apache Spark. Hence, it
>>>> tames the complexity that arises from the "Cambrian explosion" of novel
>>>> data processing platforms that we currently witness.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Wayang has been incubating since 2020-12-16.
>>>>> Three most important unfinished issues to address before graduating:
>>>>> <
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#three-most-important-unfinished-issues-to-address-before-graduating-8
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>  1. Make sure that every PPMC can manage a release.
>>>>>  2. Had a significant growth (stars/forks at GitHub), but we want to
>>>> gain
>>>>>  popularity further and grow the community.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Are there any issues that the IPMC or ASF Board need to be aware of?
>>>>> <
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#are-there-any-issues-that-the-ipmc-or-asf-board-need-to-be-aware-of-
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> When establishing whether "Apache Wayang" was a proper name, it was
>>>> rejected because the 'wayang' word was wrong translated by Google
>>>> Translator as 'puppet' but instead of that means 'Imagination' or 'shadow'.
>>>>> Because of the confusion and to avoid future problems, the process is
>>>> under "ASF's trademark counsel". The process started in January, and until
>>>> these days, the community did not get any status updates.
>>>>> How has the community developed since the last report?
>>>>> <
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#how-has-the-community-developed-since-the-last-report-9
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The community growth is significant (according to Github); during the
>>>> last month, the main repository had been cloned at least one time per day
>>>> from a unique IP, and two persons outside of the committer registered had
>>>> been contributing to the code.
>>>>> How has the project developed since the last report?
>>>>> <
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#how-has-the-project-developed-since-the-last-report-9
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The community had been focused on increasing the scope of the tests
>>>> and developing the Python API to help the data scientist area that it is
>>>> one of the user focus.
>>>>> How would you assess the podling's maturity?
>>>>> <
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#how-would-you-assess-the-podlings-maturity-9
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please feel free to add your own commentary.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  -  Initial setup
>>>>>  -  Working towards first release
>>>>>  -  Community building
>>>>>  -  Nearing graduation
>>>>>  -  Other:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Technology-wise, the Podling is a productive state, and it is growing
>>>> adaption in the market, especially from companies with large data
>>>> processing pipelines.
>>>>> Date of last release:
>>>>> <
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#date-of-last-release-
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> December 13, 2021
>>>>> When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
>>>>> <
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#when-were-the-last-committers-or-ppmc-members-elected-9
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2021-03-05 : Committer
>>>>> Have your mentors been helpful and responsive?
>>>>> <
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#have-your-mentors-been-helpful-and-responsive-9
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, the mentors are very responsive and helpful.
>>>>> Is the PPMC managing the podling's brand / trademarks?
>>>>> <
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#is-the-ppmc-managing-the-podlings-brand--trademarks-9
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The name is under the process of "ASF's trademark counsel."
>>>> 
>>> 

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