I think one reference to the project and the other to the community or is
it something else ??


On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 2:44 PM Alexander Alten <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/May2022#how-has-the-community-developed-since-the-last-report-36
> <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/May2022#how-has-the-community-developed-since-the-last-report-36
> >
>
> The same topic two times with different answers :)
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 4. May 2022, at 14:40, Bertty Contreras <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > I just update the report of may in the cwiki of apache[1] please check it
> > and let me know if you have any comment.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Bertty
> >
> > [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/May2022#wayang
> >
> > On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 3:50 PM Bertty Contreras <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Folks,
> >>
> >> I add the comment of Cris, let me know if something is missing or do you
> >> want change something
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Bertty
> >> Wayang
> >> <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#wayang>
> >>
> >> Wayang is a cross-platform data processing system that aims at
> decoupling
> >> the business logic of data analytics applications from concrete data
> >> processing platforms, such as Apache Flink or Apache Spark. Hence, it
> tames
> >> the complexity that arises from the "Cambrian explosion" of novel data
> >> processing platforms that we currently witness.
> >>
> >> Wayang has been incubating since 2020-12-16.
> >> Three most important unfinished issues to address before graduating:
> >> <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#three-most-important-unfinished-issues-to-address-before-graduating-8
> >
> >>
> >>   1. Simplifying and documenting the release process
> >>   2. Had a significant growth (stars/forks at GitHub), but we want to
> >>   gain popularity further and grow the community.
> >>
> >> Are there any issues that the IPMC or ASF Board need to be aware of?
> >> <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#are-there-any-issues-that-the-ipmc-or-asf-board-need-to-be-aware-of-
> >
> >>
> >> When establishing whether "Apache Wayang" was a proper name, it was
> >> rejected because the 'wayang' word was wrong translated by Google
> >> Translator as 'puppet' but instead of that means 'Imagination' or
> 'shadow'.
> >> Because of the confusion and to avoid future problems, the process is
> under
> >> "ASF's trademark counsel". The process started in January, and until
> these
> >> days, the community did not get any status updates.
> >> How has the community developed since the last report?
> >> <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#how-has-the-community-developed-since-the-last-report-9
> >
> >>
> >> The community growth is significant (according to Github); during the
> last
> >> month, the main repository had been cloned at least one time per day
> from a
> >> unique IP, and two persons outside of the committer registered had been
> >> contributing to the code.
> >> How has the project developed since the last report?
> >> <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#how-has-the-project-developed-since-the-last-report-9
> >
> >>
> >> The community had been focused on increasing the scope of the tests and
> >> developing the Python API to help the data scientist area that it is
> one of
> >> the user focus.
> >> How would you assess the podling's maturity?
> >> <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#how-would-you-assess-the-podlings-maturity-9
> >
> >>
> >> Please feel free to add your own commentary.
> >>
> >>   -  Initial setup
> >>   -  Working towards first release
> >>   -  Community building
> >>   -  Nearing graduation
> >>   -  Other:
> >>
> >> Technology-wise, the Podling is a productive state, and it is growing
> >> adoption in the market, especially from companies with large data
> >> processing pipelines.
> >> Date of last release:
> >> <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#date-of-last-release-
> >
> >>
> >> December 13, 2021
> >> When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
> >> <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#when-were-the-last-committers-or-ppmc-members-elected-9
> >
> >>
> >> 2022-01-18 : Calvin Kirs (As committer, but currently is under the
> process
> >> of becoming PPMC)
> >> Have your mentors been helpful and responsive?
> >> <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#have-your-mentors-been-helpful-and-responsive-9
> >
> >>
> >> Yes, the mentors are very responsive and helpful, nevertheless, two of
> >> them have prolonged inactivity
> >> Is the PPMC managing the podling's brand / trademarks?
> >> <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#is-the-ppmc-managing-the-podlings-brand--trademarks-9
> >
> >>
> >> The name is under the process of "ASF's trademark counsel."
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 3:39 PM Bertty Contreras <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thank @Cris I will take in consideration your input and I will added to
> >>> the draft
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 1:28 PM Alexander Alten-Lorenz <
> [email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Great input, Chris! Thanks :)
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 2. May 2022, at 12:56, Christofer Dutz <[email protected]
> >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Bertty,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In general the growth of the community will remain a goal, even after
> >>>> graduation. Also it's nice if every PPMC could release Wayang,
> however I
> >>>> doubt this goal is achieved for any Apache project ;-) ... I think
> with
> >>>> Apache PLC4X probably 3 or 4 people would be able to do so.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I would therefore mention:
> >>>>> - Simplifying and documenting the release process
> >>>>> - Growing the community
> >>>>> As stuff the project needs to work on for graduation.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regarding the growth of the community: Usually projects measure the
> >>>> number of contributors ... unfortunately forks and clones don't help
> much,
> >>>> even if it's an indicator. Cloning once per day could probably also
> be a CI
> >>>> build running somewhere on a docker-based system.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Usually if someone is voted in, the names are mentioned ... you're
> >>>> just mentioning a "Committer" ... I would suggest to write the name
> >>>> together with the information that he was invited as committer.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In the maturity, I would opt for selecting "Community building".
> >>>> Apache generally doesn't really care if we ship stuff that works ...
> as
> >>>> long as the community behind the project works. We don't have the
> >>>> expectation to ship perfect software, just to be able to react to
> problems,
> >>>> especially if they are security-relevant. So, I would omit that text
> part
> >>>> in the maturity assessment.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And last not least, you are currently voting on removing 2 of the 4
> >>>> mentors. This is an indicator that not all of us mentors are doing
> what the
> >>>> podling is expecting of them. This definitely should be mentioned in
> your
> >>>> report.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Chris
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: Bertty Contreras <[email protected]>
> >>>>> Sent: Sonntag, 1. Mai 2022 23:54
> >>>>> To: [email protected]
> >>>>> Subject: [Report][Draft] May
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Folks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is the draft for the report of may is below, please read
> >>>> carefully and let me know what you think and your thoughts.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The deadline is until 3 of may because we need to upload it until may
> >>>> 4 (be with you!)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>> Bertty
> >>>>> Wayang
> >>>>> <
> >>>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#wayang
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Wayang is a cross-platform data processing system that aims at
> >>>> decoupling the business logic of data analytics applications from
> concrete
> >>>> data processing platforms, such as Apache Flink or Apache Spark.
> Hence, it
> >>>> tames the complexity that arises from the "Cambrian explosion" of
> novel
> >>>> data processing platforms that we currently witness.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Wayang has been incubating since 2020-12-16.
> >>>>> Three most important unfinished issues to address before graduating:
> >>>>> <
> >>>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#three-most-important-unfinished-issues-to-address-before-graduating-8
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  1. Make sure that every PPMC can manage a release.
> >>>>>  2. Had a significant growth (stars/forks at GitHub), but we want to
> >>>> gain
> >>>>>  popularity further and grow the community.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Are there any issues that the IPMC or ASF Board need to be aware of?
> >>>>> <
> >>>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#are-there-any-issues-that-the-ipmc-or-asf-board-need-to-be-aware-of-
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> When establishing whether "Apache Wayang" was a proper name, it was
> >>>> rejected because the 'wayang' word was wrong translated by Google
> >>>> Translator as 'puppet' but instead of that means 'Imagination' or
> 'shadow'.
> >>>>> Because of the confusion and to avoid future problems, the process is
> >>>> under "ASF's trademark counsel". The process started in January, and
> until
> >>>> these days, the community did not get any status updates.
> >>>>> How has the community developed since the last report?
> >>>>> <
> >>>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#how-has-the-community-developed-since-the-last-report-9
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The community growth is significant (according to Github); during the
> >>>> last month, the main repository had been cloned at least one time per
> day
> >>>> from a unique IP, and two persons outside of the committer registered
> had
> >>>> been contributing to the code.
> >>>>> How has the project developed since the last report?
> >>>>> <
> >>>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#how-has-the-project-developed-since-the-last-report-9
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The community had been focused on increasing the scope of the tests
> >>>> and developing the Python API to help the data scientist area that it
> is
> >>>> one of the user focus.
> >>>>> How would you assess the podling's maturity?
> >>>>> <
> >>>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#how-would-you-assess-the-podlings-maturity-9
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please feel free to add your own commentary.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  -  Initial setup
> >>>>>  -  Working towards first release
> >>>>>  -  Community building
> >>>>>  -  Nearing graduation
> >>>>>  -  Other:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Technology-wise, the Podling is a productive state, and it is growing
> >>>> adaption in the market, especially from companies with large data
> >>>> processing pipelines.
> >>>>> Date of last release:
> >>>>> <
> >>>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#date-of-last-release-
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> December 13, 2021
> >>>>> When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
> >>>>> <
> >>>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#when-were-the-last-committers-or-ppmc-members-elected-9
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2021-03-05 : Committer
> >>>>> Have your mentors been helpful and responsive?
> >>>>> <
> >>>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#have-your-mentors-been-helpful-and-responsive-9
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yes, the mentors are very responsive and helpful.
> >>>>> Is the PPMC managing the podling's brand / trademarks?
> >>>>> <
> >>>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/December2021#is-the-ppmc-managing-the-podlings-brand--trademarks-9
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The name is under the process of "ASF's trademark counsel."
> >>>>
> >>>
>
>

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