Louis Suarez-Potts wrote:

> But I am wondering about the left navbar. [snip] Right now, visitors 
> going to the site will see the left navbar, good, but may miss the top 
> navbar.

These statistics suggest that a left navbar and a top navbar are both 
elements that users have come to expect on a website. They are likely to 
look for them.

http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20040913.html

 * A top navbar is "standard" (ie. when breadcrums exist, they are 
   arrayed in the form of a top navbar 80% of the time).
 * A left navbar is "convention" (ie. used 50% of the time or more).

And anything tht is "convention" or higher will become the expectation of 
site visitors.


Of course, we could enlarge the top navbar to make it more obvious. Or do 
other things (change colour, add space, whatever). But the basic layout of 
a top navbar and a left navbar is very good, because people expect it, and 
know how to use it.


> *.  I am moving the Coming Events to MP. It won't be on the homepage any
> more.  There are too many now, as it is, and the page cannot support all
> of them.

Ok.  Up to you.


> *. Media Attention, which should be renamed, "news" should just be a
> link.  It will take people to the newsletter and list of news stories
> that Deepkankar and others compile.  

How would one distinguish bettween news from OOo, and news about OOo?


> So, that removes two big and to my mind fairly distracting boxes, Coming
> Events and Media Attention, replacing them with two links that can fit
> on the left navbar.

I like the idea. If a "comming event" is important enough to appear on the 
front page, we can make it an "annoucement" too.

> *. We do need a short blurb about what OOo the product and project is.
> This can be one sentence or two, eg, "OpenOffice.org is the leading free
> office suite compatible with other suites; and it is also an open
> community project."

Once sentence or two is a doable. It doesn't detract from the main design. 
I vote for one sentence, since people have such short attention span. 
Simple is good:

http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/2.0/principles-simplicity.html


> *. The footer is still too large on XP and Safari. It needs to be
> smaller.  

ok


> Let's say we do have a double top navbar. Top could be tabbed, for
> really important things; bottom for nearly as important links, those
> currently on left navbar.

I think we should keep the left navbar. But it'd be easier to decide if we 
could see a mockup with the two alternatives. Even better, run a few 
tests with "sample users".


> * The icon for NLC projects is good, as is the minimal language, but
> let's eliminate the "English": it is confusing there.  Or does it change
> per language?  I would, as suggested, replace it with no language at all
> and just have, in the button, "Your Language."

I assumed it was intended to change with the language.

Cheers,
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