Hi *,

On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 09:02:04PM -0400, Daniel Carrera wrote:
> Christian Lohmaier wrote:
> 
> >I suggest you read it again or point me to a message that states that
> >Sun will build OOo using gcj.
> 
> What about all the messages from Caolan talking about which parts of OOo 
> build with gcj and which ones don't?

Maintaining compatibility and working with the developers of the gcc
doesn't mean Sun will switch to using gcj to build the OOo.

> Just to be clear, I didn't mean to say that *Sun* would build OOo with 
> gcj. I was talking about Debian. And the point I was making is that they 
> will not have "Java removed" like John said. Sorry if I didn't make 
> myself clear before.

But this is the point: not rpm vs. debs but "official" vs "contributed".

> >You never did see Sun's JRE? The JRE is a seperate download, not part of
> >OOo. The verstion the script fetches is 1.5.0_3
> 
> What I meant was, could you please point me to this script? Not that 
> it's relevant to .deb packages. I'm just curious.

It was in the first mail (I deleted it already) but thanks to browser
history:
http://www.evolutioncolt.com/mainweb/?q=node/11

or direct links:
http://www.evolutioncolt.com/downloads/evolutioncolt_oo2_java.sh
http://www.evolutioncolt.com/downloads/evolutioncolt_oo2_nonjava.sh

I don't like these scripts since they hardcode the version, don't
support offline-installation and they could have probably used the
freedesktop-menus rpm as base for the menus.
Probably it misses a call to update-desktop-database for the
menu-entries as well.

> >See above. And building from unpatched sources doesn't mean that it is
> >compiled with the same set of features, with the same
> >configure-switches.
> 
> I can see the options for Java right here. I installed Sun's JRE and I 
> was using it to run Wizards all of last week (for a book). I don't know, 
> or really care, if all the configure switches are identical. We know 
> this is a "third party" .deb.

I don't challange that.

> I simply said that I'm using .deb packages 
> with none of the Java functionality removed. And that was a response to 
> John saying that the .deb packages have Java functionality removed. 
> That's all.

OK.
 
> >OOo is no longer a large program package-wise. The biggest junk is
> >21 MB.
> 
> Fair enough, but the program I had problems with was OOo. I couldn't 
> install OOo RPMs on Ubuntu using alien.

Yes. But that is probably history. Earlier versions
* were not split in that many individual packages
* included some files in multiple packages
* required a registration of the component

> Maybe I'm just very unlucky. I'm 
> just telling you what my experience is.

You probably just tried too early. When on Systems I installed an early
version using alien as well. And I needed the force-overwrite switch
(and had to launch the registration-commands). 

ciao
Christian
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