On 2007-10-29, at 13:46 , :murb: [maarten brouwers] wrote:

Hi Louis,
FYI, the User Experience project is also quite interested in this topic, now.

Hmmm, just to make sure, the User Experience project, isn't that limited to the actual product?


That's what I thought. But Matthias M-P is part of the project, and he expressed to me the idea that UX should not narrow its interests or withhold its expertise.

I would prefer to keep it limited that way, since things related to style are already discussed quite a lot in marketing, art, and website. User Experience should imho stay more focussed with how things should work for the end user, that may be partly look, but style is the polishing, which has its effect on usability (aesthetics is part of the definition), but can be discussed quite well separately from the other experience problems, which deal more with how to interact. Since managing problems over different projects is quite difficult already, I wouldn't promote involving yet another project in it... but that is just my humble opinion.

If the UX project and its members wishes to contribute to the discussion, they are welcome to. I am sure you are more than capable of evaluating any contribution.



Furhtermore regarding the style guides, there are two:

[1] http://www.openoffice.org/styles/

[2] 
http://www.openoffice.org/nonav/issues/showattachment.cgi/29949/OpenOffice.org%20Style%20Manual%20(Version%200.9).pdf

The first one is related to the website, the other one is related to visual identity.

The website's style guide is mainly interesting for those who maintain pages, and to maintain consistency. Note that some of the colours in [1] do not really match the current visual 'identity' of OOo (one might question whether we have actually one but...)

For visual design look at [2]. That's the best one available imho.

Cool. Then let's promote that one to users. Kay's redaction of my old style guide, is still useful, of course.



g.,


Maarten

best
louis

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