hi Maarten, *....

:murb: [maarten brouwers] wrote:
Hi art and website folks,

Are there still people who definitely think that the action statements approach is a bad approach? I feel like Graham, and to some extend I, have been able to convince most of you, but please say it now if you heartedly disagree with this approach, and please say why. To me the convincing argument /for/ the action statement approach is as follows:

Basically there are many relatively experienced MS Office users out there who don't have a clue about how to download and install something. Furthermore, while other people may have quite some experience in browsing, installing software is something relatively a small percentage of the internet-connected people do. The main target group for this redesign were exactly these users, which is probably the largest group of potential new users. Guiding them carefully, using these action statements, could help them a lot, it works reassuring.

It is demonstrated in the following designs, one of which partly won the vote. But with the recent vote I didn't ask you to pay any attention to the content, but only to pay attention to the style:

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Website/Proposals#Action_statement_based

I think the *approach *is fine, but I think the use of the "I" phrases is well, overdone.

Could we go with something like...

"Learn More About OpenOffice.org"

"Download the OpenOffice.org application"

"Get Help with OpenOffice.org installation"

....


I understand that the "I..." may seem more friendly, but it seems kind fo cluttery to me. I also changed the wording on the Download because I'm wondering, based on what's been said here that the use of the term "OpenOffice.org" for both the site AND the application suite might be confusing to new visitors.

Thoughts?

I liek this approach very much though.

You could compare these designs to the designs listed at that page above this heading. I reported to Louis (in private) already that if we agree on the action statement based approach, then currently this screenshot:

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/mwiki/images/6/66/Murb_homepageproposal1_homepage_normal.png

is the best design so far, on which we will base our future iterations, when both homepage-content and style is considered. It a) is based on Ivan's OOo minimalist and b) I felt we already kind of agreed now on the action statement approach. Of course there is still the need for some additional sub pages, but if we can agree on e.g. this design, or a better one, that would already be a huge leap forward in the process.

Or am I pushing own opinion too much now? If so, please do say so soon... we need to make progress! (and if you are 'pro' action statements, and you see only negative replies, please share your views too with the community, it is about getting our opinions aligned). Maybe someone could also consider whether it adheres to the rough requirements we wrote down here: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Website/Requirements

g.,


Maarten


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