reboot doesnt cost that long anymore
i think it is pretty fast now up and running.

i still think we can do with 2 just fine 1 for the app and static stuff
and 1 for all the examples.

that teatime is updated that can be done just fine a couple of time without
restarting

and if teatime is updated for a couple of time because of some love then
just throw it into the examples tomcat for a while
when it is stable move it again. That is pretty simple

johan


On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 8:34 PM, Martijn Dashorst <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 5/18/08, Sebastiaan van Erk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hmm, what's wrong with redeploy without restarting tomcat. :-)
>
> This just doesn't work.
> 1. permgen space errors
> 2. reboot of server takes >2minutes
> 3. VM size > 2G is also very resource unfriendly for the GC
> 4. fast redeploy is very welcome
>
> >  And you can still think of partitioning it in 2 VM's if one is going to
> > have to be updated many times, but the rest is relatively stable...
> >
> >  A huge number of VM's is just not very resource friendly... :-(
> >
> >  Regards,
> >  Sebastiaan
> >
> >
> >  Martijn Dashorst wrote:
> >
> > > Because I don't want to shut down jira, confluence, teamcity and so
> > > forth when deploying the examples.
> > >
> > > Martijn
> > >
> > > On 5/18/08, Sebastiaan van Erk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Why not go with 1 VM and just use Tomcat's virtual hosting. Using
> > aliases
> > > > in apache you only need 1 virtual host (because it has to do the same
> > thing
> > > > for every host anyway, and that is forward to tomcat).
> > > >
> > > >  Regards,
> > > >  Sebastiaan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  Johan Compagner wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > vm's? how many?
> > > > >
> > > > > vm's have 1 problem that they all need an excact amount of memory
> that
> > > > > they will consume. And the server has now 3G but that doesnt mean
> that
> > > > > we can run many vm's on it that all are running tomcat.. Because
> for
> > > > > that every vm must be configured to have a bit memory, atleast
> between
> > > > > 512M en 1G.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would just say if we want multiply instances then every thing
> that
> > > > > is pretty static can be in one
> > > > >
> > > > (teatime/repo/jira/teamcity/doc) and
> > > >
> > > > > all the examples could go into another. I dont see more gain in
> having
> > > > > it split up even more.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 5/18/08, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Well, it would make adding VMs set up to run a "site" very easy.
> > They
> > > > > > would all look the same (tomcat/jetty, JDK, svn, etc.).  So,
> you'd
> > > > > > know exactly where to go to make changes.  I use Apache virtual
> > hosts
> > > > > > at home, too, but I don't have that many domains set up (I have 2
> I
> > > > > > think).  Setting up a new instance of Tomcat/Jetty for each one
> of
> > > > > > these sites and maintaining the proxy forwards in Apache can be a
> > > > > > PITA.  That's just my $0.02.  The sites shouldn't need that much
> > > > > > memory anyway (JIRA/TeamCity might require more of course).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Timo Rantalaiho
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sun, 18 May 2008, James Carman wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > How about setting them up as VMs?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This might require partitioning the memory statically for
> > > > > > > each virtual server. I think that name-based virtual hosts
> > > > > > > by Apache on the front would probably be the most cost-
> > > > > > > effective solution.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best wishes,
> > > > > > > Timo
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Timo Rantalaiho
> > > > > > > Reaktor Innovations Oy    <URL: http://www.ri.fi/ >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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