Here are my thoughts on it: 1) I personally only know how to write code; not how to create cute kitten images. Therefore I don't question that Thoof could really have created the source code at hand. And the source code is not *so* complex. But in my world it takes more effort to create a kitten image, than it does to create a kitten captcha component. Ideally it would be nice if every file in the batch was followed by a oneliner/tag, saying "created in-house", "3. party ASL", etc. 2) But if we should be practical, then for my sake I trust the source code, but if we could just get a "yes, images are created in-house" or something from Thoof, then I would be satisfied. I know they have signed of the zip file, but if I look at the ip-clearance page[0], I see no dates on the "Check items" task. Does that mean that we don't really know what the license are for those images? 3) I'm +1 for including the components, with or without the images depending on what we find out with those.
Frank On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 11:31 PM, Martijn Dashorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The software grant gives us the right to license everything inside the > zip file under the Apache License. Hence, the images are subject to > this provision in the software grant. > > This is not different from the source code in the zip file, which you > are not questioning. Are you questioning the validity of the claim in > the software grant? > > Martijn > > On 5/18/08, Frank Bille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> But unless those images are ASL licensed (which images normally >> aren't), shouldn't we at least ask which license they were originally >> under? IANAL but as I see it: >> >> 1) The images are created by Thoof.com (pictures taken, manipulated >> into what they are now). All is fine >> 2) The images are 3. party, but created under ASL. All is fine >> 3) The images are 3. party, under ASL compatiable license (f.ex. the >> CC license that is approved). All is fine, but shouldn't we have it in >> NOTICE? >> 4) The images are 3. party, but under ASL incompatible license. >> Problem! We should remove them from zip and not have them part of the >> batch. >> >> It's not that I want to be really picky about those sweet fluffy >> kitten images, but it's good practice for us. >> >> WDYT? >> >> >> Frank >> >> >> >> On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Martijn Dashorst >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Given that the grant covers the whole kitten-captcha.zip file, we need >> > to trust the IP governance of thoof.com. I am sure that they have done >> > so. >> > >> > Until someone comes up and claims otherwise, we have done our due >> > diligence. If they turn out to be not distributable, then we have to >> > remove them, but then thoof is also liable. >> > >> > I don't see any problem whatsoever currently. >> > >> > Martijn >> > >> > On 5/18/08, Frank Bille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> +1, given that the pictures are all checked for copyright. >> >> >> >> >> >> Frank >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Martijn Dashorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > Thoof has generously donated their fluffy kitten-captcha to the Apache >> >> > Wicket project for inclusion. Kitten captcha is a captcha that works >> >> > through selecting pictures of kittens in a jumble of other objects, >> >> > such as a hamster, guinea pig or rabbit. >> >> > >> >> > This is a vote to accept this donation. You can find the donation in >> SVN here: >> >> > >> >> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/wicket/common/incoming/ >> >> > >> >> > The IP clearance is being tracked here: >> >> > >> >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-1610 >> >> > >> >> > and here (the official status report): >> >> > >> >> > http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/kitten-auth.html >> >> > >> >> > [ ] yes, accept kitten-captcha into Wicket >> >> > [ ] no, <insert objection> >> >> > >> >> > Martijn >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Buy Wicket in Action: http://manning.com/dashorst >> > Apache Wicket 1.3.3 is released >> > Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3.3 >> > >> > > > -- > Buy Wicket in Action: http://manning.com/dashorst > Apache Wicket 1.3.3 is released > Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3.3 >
