Yes but shouldn't we know what license they are on, if they are not
owned by Thoof?

Frank

On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 11:35 PM, Martijn Dashorst
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Specifically the software grant [1] starts with:
>
> WHEREAS, Licensor owns or has sufficient rights to contribute the
> software source code and other related intellectual property as
> itemized on Exhibit A ("Software") under the terms of this agreement
> to the Foundation for use within Foundation software development
> projects ("Projects").
>
> I really don't see any issue with the images as they clearly are
> "other related intellectual property".
>
> Martijn
>
> [1] http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
>
> On 5/18/08, Martijn Dashorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The software grant gives us the right to license everything inside the
>>  zip file under the Apache License. Hence, the images are subject to
>>  this provision in the software grant.
>>
>>  This is not different from the source code in the zip file, which you
>>  are not questioning. Are you questioning the validity of the claim in
>>  the software grant?
>>
>>
>>  Martijn
>>
>>  On 5/18/08, Frank Bille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  > But unless those images are ASL licensed (which images normally
>>  >  aren't), shouldn't we at least ask which license they were originally
>>  >  under? IANAL but as I see it:
>>  >
>>  >  1) The images are created by Thoof.com (pictures taken, manipulated
>>  >  into what they are now). All is fine
>>  >  2) The images are 3. party, but created under ASL. All is fine
>>  >  3) The images are 3. party, under ASL compatiable license (f.ex. the
>>  >  CC license that is approved). All is fine, but shouldn't we have it in
>>  >  NOTICE?
>>  >  4) The images are 3. party, but under ASL incompatible license.
>>  >  Problem! We should remove them from zip and not have them part of the
>>  >  batch.
>>  >
>>  >  It's not that I want to be really picky about those sweet fluffy
>>  >  kitten images, but it's good practice for us.
>>  >
>>  >  WDYT?
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >  Frank
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >  On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Martijn Dashorst
>>  >  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  >  > Given that the grant covers the whole kitten-captcha.zip file, we need
>>  >  > to trust the IP governance of thoof.com. I am sure that they have done
>>  >  > so.
>>  >  >
>>  >  > Until someone comes up and claims otherwise, we have done our due
>>  >  > diligence. If they turn out to be not distributable, then we have to
>>  >  > remove them, but then thoof is also liable.
>>  >  >
>>  >  > I don't see any problem whatsoever currently.
>>  >  >
>>  >  > Martijn
>>  >  >
>>  >  > On 5/18/08, Frank Bille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  >  >> +1, given that the pictures are all checked for copyright.
>>  >  >>
>>  >  >>
>>  >  >>  Frank
>>  >  >>
>>  >  >>
>>  >  >>  On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Martijn Dashorst <[EMAIL 
>> PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  >  >>
>>  >  >> > Thoof has generously donated their fluffy kitten-captcha to the 
>> Apache
>>  >  >>  > Wicket project for inclusion. Kitten captcha is a captcha that 
>> works
>>  >  >>  > through selecting pictures of kittens in a jumble of other objects,
>>  >  >>  > such as a hamster, guinea pig or rabbit.
>>  >  >>  >
>>  >  >>  > This is a vote to accept this donation. You can find the donation 
>> in SVN here:
>>  >  >>  >
>>  >  >>  >    https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/wicket/common/incoming/
>>  >  >>  >
>>  >  >>  > The IP clearance is being tracked here:
>>  >  >>  >
>>  >  >>  >    https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-1610
>>  >  >>  >
>>  >  >>  > and here (the official status report):
>>  >  >>  >
>>  >  >>  >    http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/kitten-auth.html
>>  >  >>  >
>>  >  >>  > [ ] yes, accept kitten-captcha into Wicket
>>  >  >>  > [ ] no, <insert objection>
>>  >  >>  >
>>  >  >>  > Martijn
>>  >  >>  >
>>  >  >>
>>  >  >
>>  >  >
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>>
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