Great!
1 - yes, that's right, what I was asking was for a decision on whether we
wanted to abstract it at all making it nicer to use.
2 - yeah, about that - i didn't note down enough during our conversation and
now I'm not sure what that means anymore either, as WicketPortlet always
delegates to the WicketFilter using RequestDispatcher#include and not
forward. Hopefully Ate will chime in on this and clarify as
he definitely had a point, and I thought I understood it at the time ;)

2008/10/10 Rob Sonke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Hi, I'm colleague of Thijs (he's on holiday now) and we really encourage
> this! We're using Liferay now with our custom wicket portlets which works
> great (till version 5.1.x where they changed some core things which breaks
> ajax requests, resource serving).
>
> I can promise you now at least our testing support at Liferay portals but
> maybe even more (have to discuss that with Thijs first).
>
> I'm having a few questions about your plans:
> 1. "Public render parameter support"
> Forgive me if I say something stupid but what is not supported yet? I'm
> using them now with the current 1.3 wicket trunk and works fine.
> 2. Ate says "Dealing with portlet requests through forwarded requests as
> opposed to includes"
> What exactly does that mean, could you elaborate that a bit more?
>
> Good luck, can't wait to test new features.
>
> Regards,
> Rob
>
>
>
> Antony Stubbs wrote:
>
>> Morning guys,
>>
>> This is msg is of course regarding the continuation and the finishing of
>> the
>> Portal 2.0 wicket support. I plan on continuing from Thijs' work done on
>> WICKET-1620 here:
>>
>> Here are the two historical conversations regarding the topic
>> -Portal 2 implementation:
>> http://www.nabble.com/Portlet-2.0-implementation-in-Wicket-td17187909.html
>> -original portal 1 implementation:
>>
>> http://www.nabble.com/A-new-proposal-for-Wicket-Portlet-support-td10863022.html
>>
>> I met with Ate the other day in Utrecht, Netherlands and we discused
>> various
>> things, some of which was the strategy we would adopt going forward with
>> the
>> P2 development.
>>
>> First thing is that we must come to a consensus with the Wicket team about
>> the direction we will head.
>> There are, as we see it, two options:
>>
>> 1) leave 1.0 support behind on 1.3 branch and move forward with 2.0
>> support
>> on 1.4 branch
>>
>> 2) try to support both at once in 1.4 - isolate portal 2.0 support to it's
>> own package
>>
>> My vote, and I think Ate agrees is to go with option 1 - leave 1.0 support
>> behind.
>>
>> We also need to have release goals for all this. I.e. release target for
>> portlet javadoc (1.4?) target for 2.0 implementation (1.4? 1.4.1? or 1.5)
>>
>> The most bbvious things left to be done are:
>> 0. Documentation - there is lots of javadoc to be written about the
>> current
>> Portal support
>> 1. Portal 2.0 event abstraction
>> 2. Public render parameter abstraction
>> 3. testing of the implementation on a couple of containers (e.g. Pluto,
>> Jetspeed and Liferay)
>> 4. writing some demo apps that use 2.0 features
>> 5. potentially writing a module to support a portlet preferences container
>> in web app mode, in order to have a complete wicket abstraction for user
>> prefs. This would of course use the Portlet API support when running in a
>> portlet context.
>>
>> Regarding 2 - the event abstraction, we saw there being 3 different stages
>> of this, the first stage being the target for 1.4, as lvl 2+ require large
>> wicket refactoring.
>> - level 1 - event listener registration, similar to Swing - lots of manual
>> interpretation of events etc
>> - level 2 - built in to Wicket event system with pre defined events on
>> components - with portal specific events. So Wicket would have standard
>> portlet types of events which it interprets and calls predefined
>> interfaces
>> in your code for. What those standard events would be, requires some more
>> conceptualising.
>> - level 3 - wicket specific events - extend the concept of events into
>> wicket as a whole. e.g. inter component / panel event system. These events
>> of a general broadcast type nature, could in a portlet environment, be
>> made
>> to cross the portlet boundaries in a fashion transparent to the user.
>>
>> Regarding 2, there's not much work here to be done, except to decide on a
>> nice way of abstracting the portal 2 api calls
>>
>> if anyone is aware of any other issues that need to be chased up regarding
>> 2.0 support, please raise them now or attach them to WICKET-1620.
>>
>> Other issues Ate pointed out were:
>> Dealing with portlet requests through forwarded requests as opposed to
>> includes
>> Dealing with streaming servers which don't support the option
>> javax.portlet.renderHeaders option - using caching solution from Apache
>> Bridges. (but there was some other gotcha wasn't there Ate?)
>> Need to maintain the current support for containers which have no header
>> contribution support by using inline javascript
>>
>>
>> Regarding collaboration on this, well if I wasn't fully convinced with Git
>> before, I certainly am now!
>>
>> I have setup a fork of Wicket 1.4 trunk on GitHub, which I can track with
>> Git, where I have created three branches. This was done off of the new
>> Apache git mirrors available here:
>> http://jukka.zitting.name/git/
>>
>> 1. a javadoc improvement branch for things Portletish (strictly method and
>> class level javadoc only, maybe some fields)
>> 2. a portlet 2.0 development branch (this already had Thijs patch applied,
>> and a couple of comments, refactors from me)
>> 3. a merge branch of the two
>>
>> Unless we decide that the javadoc can wait for the 2.0 implementation -
>> which would be easier ;)
>>
>> I plan on keeping the javadoc branch separate so that I can easily create
>> a
>> patch/push against the 1.4 trunk, as Ate and I thought it would be good to
>> get the Javadoc we write into the code base as soon as possible, while the
>> actual Portal 2.0 implementation can continue on.
>>
>> The public github project is here:
>> http://github.com/astubbs/wicket.get-portals2/tree/portal-javadoc
>>
>> Install Git (if you're on Windows, I recommend Cygwin/Git) and then you
>> can
>> clone the repository using:
>> git clone git://github.com/astubbs/wicket.get-portals2.git
>> nb, you won't be able to push to it though unless you make a github
>> account
>>
>> and you can switch to the javadoc branch for example using:
>> git checkout origin/portal-javadoc
>>
>> Here is some good Git information:
>> http://github.com/guides/home
>>
>> Cheers,
>> looking forward to hearing your thoughts.
>>
>>
>>
>


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