News flash:

If you're going to include OSGi, go ahead and add Weld.  They are equally 
important.  Maybe not to you, but to some of us. 

Wicket 1.5 is not release candidate.  Features do not get added to release 
candidates.  Features do not even get added to alpha versions.  Read the 
Release Lifecycle 101 at 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle.  

If Wicket is not RC, then the features Wicket needs to be a viable release 
should be added.  OSGi is one of them, regardless of whether it's one of your 
personal favorites or not (and your opinions are pretty clear in the public 
record).  

I pushed for OSGi in 1.5 knowing full well that the RC moniker was a charade 
and that I am just as uneasy of waiting for it as you guys appear to be uneasy 
of waiting for Weld integration.  

If 1.5 is released, the next opportunity to add features that would cause the 
modules to be restructured is 1.6, not 1.5.1.  

The reality is the RC fantasy should be aborted and the cycle set back to 
"development mode" so features like Weld can be added and the *proper* work 
done to add OSGi -- both with necessary module restructurings.  

Then when that is done, freeze features and start fixing bugs.  That's called 
"alpha".  Etc etc.

I'll be clear, I think the Apache process has failed on Wicket and if 
preferential treatment is given to Weld without proper OSGi support also going 
in, it's going to be an unmitigated disaster that is worthy of a review by the 
Apache board.  It may be worthy of a review in any event.

Back to the regularly scheduled programming....

On Aug 22, 2011, at 6:11 PM, Martijn Dashorst wrote:

> Wicket Weld is a really nice to have for wicket 1.5 and would increase
> the importance of our release pretty considerably. The issue with
> wicket-weld is that it requires java 6, and it is late in the release
> game for 1.5 final.
> 
> We have experience with building mixed java releases (see our 1.3
> history), though the build process was not pretty.
> 
> In order to enable wicket-weld we need to do the following IMO:
> - create java5 and java6 modules in trunk, each configured with the
> correct java version
> - commit wicket-weld as a submodule for the java 6 module
> - move wicket-examples to java 6 module
> - move all other wicket modules to the java 5 module
> - fix the wicket parent pom to have a java 5 profile and a java 6 profile
> - fix the build script to run different maven setups utilizing a java
> 5 home directory and a java 6 home directory
> - fix the build script to run java 5 compilation first and then only
> java 6 for packaging (without clean) this will keep the java 5
> compiled classes and re-package them during the java 6 run
> 
> This is some work, and as I said, we are late in the release game. If
> 1.5 final was this week I wouldn't propose to do this, but perhaps do
> it in 1.5.1 or 1.5.2. However, since 1.5-rc6 is still not complete we
> might do this now. I'm open to suggestions on whether to include
> wicket-weld or not.
> 
> Martijn
> 
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