Hi, I don't like URL fragments either. For unsupported browsers, I would prefer downgrading to normal stateful AJAX.
Hendy Hendy Irawan - on Twitter <http://twitter.com/hendybippo> - on LinkedIn<http://id.linkedin.com/in/hendyirawan> Web Developer | Bippo Indonesia <http://www.bippo.co.id/> | Akselerator Bisnis | Bandung On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 7:19 PM, Martin Grigorov-4 [via Apache Wicket] < [email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Hendy Irawan <[hidden > email]<http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4661445&i=0>> > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > The way I see it now this will enable a lot of our frontend pages to be > > stateless. > > > > Currently http://www.tuneeca.com powered by Wicket 6.8.0 has mostly > > stateful > > frontend pages (except for HomePage, which we made the effort to be > > stateless to reduce pagestore/session usage). > > > > Most of the "state" are used for paging, sorting, and filter, which we > > happen to use Wicket's AJAX built-in support heavily (thanks Wicket!! > :-) ) > > but of course this makes the pages has ?id in them. > > > > I think it'd be possible to encode all the "state" a page wants in, e.g. > : > > > > > > > http://www.tuneeca.com/release/carribean_dream?lowerPrice=50000&upperPrice=200000&sort=name&page=2 > > > > or perhaps: > > > > > > > http://www.tuneeca.com/release/carribean_dream/lowerPrice/50000/upperPrice/200000/sort/name/page/2 > > > Both of these urls won't work in IE 8/9/10 because these versions of IE do > not support HTML5 History API. > To support history you will need to use Url fragments, i.e. something > like: > > > http://www.tuneeca.com/release/carribean_dream?#lowerPrice/50000/upperPrice/200000/sort/name/page/2 > or > > http://www.tuneeca.com/release/carribean_dream?#lowerPrice=50000&upperPrice=200000&sort=name&page=2 > > > > > > > With the History API support it'd should be possible to do this, while > > retaining four (!!) awesome characteristics : > > > > 1. AJAX - faster loading due to less bandwidth usage > > 2. Bookmarkable - the URLs (+ parameters) are immediately bookmarkable > and > > consistent. > > > > With the Url fragments this is not quite true. > The url is bookmarkable but will require some extra JavaScript onload > logic > to make an Ajax call to the server after initially loading the page. > Twitter used to use this approach but it didn't worked well. There are > blog > articles about the problems. > > > > 3. Statelessness - faster loading (internally), which results in: > > > > How exactly it will be faster ? > > > > 4. Less session/pagestore usage - faster loading because less I/O, also > > saves precious heap & disk space :-) > > > > Those are not so precious these days. > Actually developers' salary is bigger than their cost. > > > > > > Point 3 & 4 above are only possible with proper stateless links/buttons > > etc. > > (which I assume will be one of the improved features of Wicket 7?) > > > > There are no such improvements at the moment. > > But there is > http://central.maven.org/maven2/org/wicketstuff/wicketstuff-stateless/ > > > > > > Of course I haven't yet made a Proof of concept of this... (sorry!) but > > just > > thinking about this made me excited. If this works out, Wicket 7's > > definitely going to be the most awesome web framework of all (not that > it > > hasn't, mind you :-)). > > > > Hendy > > > > > > > > > > -- > > View this message in context: > > > http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Wicket7-History-API-support-for-navigable-AJAX-pages-components-tp4660502p4661443.html > > > Sent from the Forum for Wicket Core developers mailing list archive at > > Nabble.com. > > > > > ------------------------------ > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion > below: > > http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Wicket7-History-API-support-for-navigable-AJAX-pages-components-tp4660502p4661445.html > To unsubscribe from [Wicket7] History API support for navigable AJAX > pages/components?, click > here<http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code&node=4660502&code=aGVuZHlAc29sdXZhcy5jb218NDY2MDUwMnwxNTI0Njc4NzUy> > . > NAML<http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer&id=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.naml&base=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespace&breadcrumbs=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml> > -- View this message in context: http://apache-wicket.1842946.n4.nabble.com/Wicket7-History-API-support-for-navigable-AJAX-pages-components-tp4660502p4661451.html Sent from the Forum for Wicket Core developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
