On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Hendy Irawan <he...@soluvas.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Martin Grigorov-4 [via Apache Wicket] <
> ml-node+s1842946n4661552...@n4.nabble.com> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Hendy Irawan <[hidden email]<
> http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4661552&i=0>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Good news!
> > >
> > > I've created a proof-of-concept project using Wicket 6.10 :
> > >
> > > https://github.com/ceefour/wicket-historyapi
> > >
> > > There are 3 approaches:
> > > 1. redirect
> > > 2. stateless
> > > 3. history API
> > >
> > > (Actually there should be a stateful approach too.)
> > >
> > > The History API is using history.js (don't worry, HTML4 support is
> > disabled
> > > i.e. no hashbangs).
> > >
> >
> > Actually this worries me. As a framework Wicket should support older
> > browsers.
> > At the moment we support IE8+.
> > I'm not sure when we will be able to drop support for IE 8 and 9.
> >
> >
> How to support older browsers, it's a choice. history.js has support for
> HTML4 via hashbangs.
> Since you said you didn't like it, and neither do I, it doesn't mean that
> "Wicket won't support older browsers",
> it means that the support will be in another form, i.e. not hashbang, but
> can be any of:
> 1. redirect (demoed)
> 2. stateless (demoed)
> 3. stateful (not demoed, but everybody already knows this anyway)
>
>
> >
> > >
> > > What I'd like to have is a hybrid approach that combines approach #1
> > > (redirect, for non-supporting browsers e.g. IE10 & Googlebot) + #3
> > (history
> > >
> >
> > According to http://caniuse.com/#search=history IE10 should support
> > Hisotry
> > API.
> >
>
> Thanks for the rechecking! I was referring when you said "IE 8/9/10 because
> these versions of IE do
> not support HTML5 History API". Now that's a good news that IE 10 actually
> support history ! :)
> One less browser to worry about :)
>
>
> >
> >
> > > API, for supporting browsers). Not sure how to do this yet....
> > >
> > > As it is now, all these approaches require workarounds and non-standard
> > > Wicket components, and especially the "stateless" approach aren't
> > working
> > > in certain situations.
> > >
> >
> > Yes. This is the main reason why Wicket do not provide official support
> > for
> > them, i.e. they are not part of wicket-core.
> >
>
> I'm hoping this can improve for Wicket 7. If not in Wicket 7 Core, then at
> least Core improvements (i.e. "enablers") so that building on top of it
> will feel more natural and less hacky.
>
> One of the foundation blocks to enable this would be Stateless support /
> components:
>
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WICKET/Ideas+for+Wicket+7.0#IdeasforWicket7.0-Betterstatelesssupport
>
> wicket-stateless as it stands now is already awesome. Any plans to merge
> this into Wicket 7 core/extensions?
>

There were discussions whether to add wicket-stateless in Apache Wicket and
we decided to not do it.
Search in archives.


>
>
>
> >
> >
> > >
> > > It'd be great if the combined approach would work out-of-the-box with
> > > Wicket 7.
> > >
> > > And one more thing would be transitions and animations. This is not
> > > exclusive to history API/stateless support but some support in core
> > would
> > > be very appreciated. e.g. an API such as this would be wonderful:
> > >
> > > target.add( myComponent, Animation.fadeOut(250), Animation.fadeIn(400)
> > );
> > >
> >
> > See http://wicketinaction.com/2013/02/replace-components-with-animation/
> >  and
> >
> >
> https://github.com/martin-g/blogs/blob/master/wicket6-replace-with-effect/src/main/java/com/mycompany/HomePage.java#L36
> > .
> >
>
> Indeed that's exactly what I used in the demo:
>
> https://github.com/ceefour/wicket-historyapi/blob/4529b29050ffee2becdab70c1ad9e170ef945568/src/main/java/com/hendyirawan/wickethistory/Html5HistoryPage.java
>
> My point was to show that although it can be done in Wicket 6, it's not
> natural and not an integral part of Wicket 6. This is what I hope will be
> improved in Wicket 7.
>
> Hendy
>
>
> > I think it will be better if composition is used instead. For example:
> >
> > Effect hideEffect = new FadeOut(duration);
> > Effect showEffect = new SlideIn(duration);
> > Effects.replace(target, component, hideEffect, showEffect)
> >
> >
> Awesome !
>
> I'm pretty sure I won't complain much about the API.. as long as it's in
> Wicket, then I'm happy ^_^


> Hendy
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